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 Posted 01/21/2015  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I mentioned when this format was suggested: Things will get buried and, though nice to be able to come back to to see again, remain hidden in xxx pages of photos. A case in point: Rob Turner's (bosox's) outstanding eye candy of the highest 9/6 ever graded that some of us watched to see the comments. There's a couple stories behind that coin.

Although Rob was tucked away in SoCal hard at work, the coin was spotten by 2 Canadian friends at a Toronto show. One of the 2, a huge Vicky variety collector was summoned to high-end Canadian dealer's table who noticed something strange about the coin, which he had purchased at an auction some months previous. The friend immediately told the dealer what he had (no one had noticed for years what it was) and told him a guesstimate of what it may be worth. The friend knew that it was, by far, the finest known. He told the dealer to take the coin out of his case, not to sell it, hold it and that a collector in California (known to the dealer)was going to be called to possibly purchase it. The second friend, also a dealer at the show, sent Rob an email while the first friend called by phone and told him what was there. Over the phone the next day, a deal was struck and Rob became the happy owner, buying an x-thousand dollar coin for $xxxx dollars sight unseen.

Lessons learned:
1) It pays to have friends that go to bourses
2) You can make a killing if you know your varieties
3) Make friends with dealers
4) Trends looks at bourse sales. Prior to this coin, the finest known and cert'd was an AU-50 and less than 6 others of any grade were known (and this same friend had had the first 2 cert'd by ICCS and put in Charlton's). The "friend" that ID'd this one had also ID'd one that a non-Large Cent collector had picked up on a whim and never knew what he had until the same "friend" told him what he remarkably had while over coffee at the Marriott and using the front window for light on the loupe. That second coin now resides in Western Canada under 62 plastic. As soon as Rob had the coin properly certified and noted as a 9/6, Trends then had the MS-64 Red column filled with the $7,000 price tag, but still lots of "no-coin" X's to the left of it in Trends until you get to the AU-50 column. Sometimes Trends is faster than you think.

5) When someone puts a photo on here that is REAL eye candy, other collectors should mention something, especially since is the finest known and also part of the highest ranked Registry set for PCGS. You need Bosox on this forum and he deserves all the accolades that befit him.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Okie Yes, Dan shared the article with me. An excellent one for sure.
Thanks Rob. Nice to hear from you.
Roger. Bite me.


We miss you too Mikey!!

You'll be saying that to me again this winter, when I pull a bigger fish through the ice than you!!
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 Posted 01/21/2015  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fourmack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PC59-80a1 another 1 but with embossing going on

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PC59-571, large planchet crack both sides OBV57
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 Posted 01/22/2015  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tfred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ okiecoiner.... I really enjoyed the commentary in your last post. I love looking at all of the 1859's being posted, however, as you mentioned, we need to really appreciate some of the "stars". I enjoyed seeing bosox's 9/6 just as much as I enjoyed reading the back story on it. Excellent post!!
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 Posted 01/22/2015  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
?**PC59-732**?
?**73+P12a**?


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Is this particular die pairing common?

Is this a major variety? If so, which one?
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 Posted 01/22/2015  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Double punched #3 in Fine. Nice coin.

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 Posted 01/23/2015  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zookeeperz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Having difficulty in knowing what variety they are. New area for me. So It is great with so many experts in this forum. I know that I will be left with exactly the right call. I pick these up in house Clearnaces. Well a friend does and any jingle jangle he comes across he passes on to me. Here a my meagre offerings.



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 Posted 01/23/2015  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JDRMCB Yes, it is Haxby PC59-732 obv 73 + rev P12a. Besides the obvious 9. The repunched R of GRATIA and the die crack on leaf 12 are die defining markers. ed
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 Posted 01/23/2015  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zookeeperz, Haxby PC59-841, obv 84 paired with rev P23. http://www.vickycents.com/rev-p23.html

Look at the R of GRATIA and the die crack on leaf 2 for die defining markers. ed
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 Posted 01/23/2015  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Viper's coin on page 4 of this thread is indeed a new die and die pair. it is designated as a Haxby PC59-292 obv 29 paired with rev F4. The former F4 reverse got a name change to F4a to make room for the new discovery. Careful study of the obverse die cracks indicated that this new die was paired with obv 29 before the former F4 hence the change.

In other words as coins were produced obverse 29 was first paired with reverse E29 until it wore out or was retired, then it was paired with rev F4 until it wore out or was retired then finally was paired with rev F4a. It is always fun to make a new discovery, hopefully there are more to be made. ed
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 Posted 01/23/2015  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add viper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just having fun here! Look at the nice DP 5! Can anybody guess the Haxby # for this one?



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 Posted 01/23/2015  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
could it be J6? ed
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 Posted 01/23/2015  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fourmack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not J6 could it be another new find?
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 Posted 01/23/2015  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fourmack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about K2a?
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 Posted 01/23/2015  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add viper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are right on the money Don K2a it is congratulations !

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