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1967 Roll With Mixed Strikes?

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I picked up a roll of 1967 cents recently. The roll was sealed by Brinks and judging by the full red lustre and the roll paper the roll was likely sealed in 1967.

As I start to go through the roll, I am amazed at the universal good quality of the coins. There were probably only a couple in the roll that would grade under MS62 and there were lots of contenders for very high grades.

As I am going through the roll, two coins emerged that made me quite curious. The fields are almost mirrorlke and there is some light frosting on the devices.

I am guessing that some special strikes got mixed into the bag that the roll was made up from. I am going to pull out some PLs and Specimens to compare them to. I am guessing that perhaps these were specimen rejects.

Anyone seen this before?
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they were probably just from newly posished dies which seem to be pretty common on all denominations of this year, I just popped open 3 original rolls 1 nickel, 1 dime and 1 quarter. all had about half frosty and half cameo to heavy cameo, the chances of them being pl or specimen is pretty slim since I imagine rejects would be destroyed and also since the 67 sets were struck in a branch mint which only struck mint sets so id imagine brinks wouldn't do rolls for that mint.
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Any pictures?
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It is not easy to capture the different lustres and these photos don't do the coins justice.

I took the first photo at an angle to highlight the difference in the lustre.



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This is the normal MS lustre cent.



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Here is the cent with the mirror lustre.



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IMO its a specimen. Wayy to much detail on the bird/queen to be standard. How it made it into a bag of circulation is anyones guess...really nice cent tho!! My guess is SP66 ish. Anyone care to differ?
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im gonna say its a regular strike from an early die state, ms-62. you should post some of the nicest ones for grading.
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Both these coins look a lot better in hand. I am not sure if the second one is MS or SP, but I am going to guess it is 64. The MS coin is not one of the better ones form the roll. I have about 6 or 8 from this roll that I will send in for grading with a goal of getting a 66. With 65s now selling for around $10 there isn't much point in trying for those. Realistically I will probably not get any coins into and out from ICCS until maybe July. Need to build my order size still to get the best price.
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I can not honestly tell the difference between specimen and PL. MS is not too hard until one gets to the dollars.
I came upon the same problem when roll searching 1960's nickels. Most were very nice MS circulation coins but a few rolls came with highly polished fields with heavy cameo.
I read definitions until blue in the face.
I finally came to the conclusion that they were re-worked fresh dies. Great find.
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Specimen and PL can be impossible to differentiate in certain years, cownick...despite what anyone might tell you.

I had a couple 1960's nickels grade mintstate, ultra heavy cameo at ICCS. You just never know what mixture of coin finishes you will get in a roll!

The flip side of that is that I have thousands of PL 1960's one cent coins, and their finishes are equally as varied.
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