1893-S Morgan - Real Or Fake?

The 1893-P is good, and the 1893-CC is good. The 1893-CC per the coin expert was a VAM. The left C is very weak/faint and right C is normal. The 1893-S was counterfeit as you all suspected. Thank everyone for your input. I have notified ebay and the seller that I will be returning the coins for a full refund. For the $1800 that I paid for them, it was worth a shot.

It is frustrating though given the sellers feedback I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that he also thought it was real, though he could have been trying to unload the fake on me just as easy. I will update once I have received a full refund.

I was in contact with the seller and he stated he didn't know it was counterfeit. He also said he was waiting to send it until he could verify its authenticity, which apparently wasn't entirely accurate.

It does sound to me like the seller didn't know what he had.

I am sorry, it is the 21st century. Information is a click of the computer, a touch of your tablet or a swipe of your smart phone away. I am all about giving people the benefit of the doubt. I do it to a fault. (I even believe the Patriots new nothing about the deflated balls), but I cannot believe that someone who gets old coins and puts them up for sale, does not go to their old Compaq desktop makes a couple clicks to discover the approx. value of what they are about to sell.

I googled 1893s silver dollar the very first thing that came up was, an ebay listing for an AU coin that looks just like this one (minus the counterfeit markers) for $15,000, 1893cc in VF for $550, 1893p XF for $325. This all just took me about 3 minutes.
That this guy ignorantly (for lack of 3 minutes on google, bing, compuserve) decided to sell $15,875 dollars worth of collectible coins for $1800 ? Sorry, not buying it.

But then on the other hand, (and please ... please believe, no offense meant, you're a new member and I hope you stay with us for a long time, learning and sharing) but for lack of your three clicks of a computer, did you really think you were getting $15,875 worth of coins for $1800?

Really hope you get your money back and this is an inexpensive lesson rather than an expensive one.

I am sorry, but I just find it unbelievable that you would buy such a coin first and THEN start checking around to see if experts think it is authentic or not. As others have pointed out, this would have been easy homework to do beforehand. And there are four obverse die markers to look for on any 1893-S dollar. Two of them require a loupe or a good closeup, but the center of the 1 should be centered directly over the denticle below. And the last 3 should be slightly high but not doubled (1893-Ps are high and often doubled--and it's easy to add a S mintmark to those).

Please buy CERTIFIED KEY DATES or DEAL WITH A DEALER YOU TRUST if you don't know how to distinguish counterfeits! Otherwise, flushing money down the toilet is faster and more efficient.

Best Regards,

George

Was this on ebay? As others have said the coin looks very flat.

That's pathetic. It also looks like the 1921-only reverse. Let's see what we can do about this.

its too bad he has 100% feedback rating, gives the impression that he is dependable