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I think It is a Carthage Mint mark
Edited by arnoldoe
08/23/2017 6:15 pm
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I think It is a Carthage Mint mark That's what I thought it was, but all the examples of Carthage mint coins of Justinian that I could find were dated much earlier. |
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Ok hmm, I think that we can give this a probable 560s timeframe for minting. Please speak up if you strongly disagree. Otherwise, I'm thinking that we can move on starting tomorrow. Thanks for the help @svnhson!
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Thanks for the help in IDing the mint, arnoldoe and january1may! To be honest, looking at it from another angle, it could well be year 27 too (it's so worn it is hard to tell):  I would be happy to remove it if need be. Sorry if it does turn out to be 550s. |
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Yeah, I know @daviduk. The more I look at @svnhson's coin, the less convinced I am that there are three Xs in the regnal year. I'm kinda hoping that someone else has a Byzantine that they can post that is a little more definitive. What do you think?
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Don't think I have a Justinian coin, sorry. Will check if I have an early Justin II  EDIT: have a year 6, i.e. 570-1... does it count? (Probably not.) EDIT 2: if nobody posts a 560s coin in the next 3-4 hours, I'll post that one anyway, along with a dateless Tiberius Constantine Edited by january1may
08/31/2017 9:52 pm
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570-1... does it count? Nope sorry; we really need a coin minted in the range of 560 to 569 AD in order to move on. I'd love to see your coin from the 570s since we are currently stuck there. It just won't push us back a decade, ok? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Nope sorry; we really need a coin minted in the range of 560 to 569 AD in order to move on. I'd love to see your coin from the 570s since we are currently stuck there. It just won't push us back a decade, ok? OK, that's what I thought  ...should I start with the year 6 Justin II or the dateless Tiberius Constantine? I don't want to double-post unless you allow it, but I'm not sure which one should go earlier. |
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Please post 'em both at your convenience!  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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I'll start with the Tiberius Constantine then - my photos for it are readier   Tiberius II Constantine, 578-582 AD. Half follis (20 nummi), Constantinople mint, SB 434. 25x22 mm, 6 grams. Obverse: [DM] TIb CO-[N]TAN PP A, crowned and cuirassed bust facing, holding cross on globe and shield. Reverse: Large XX, cross above, mintmark CON and officina letter [illegible - perhaps alpha or delta]. ...Sorry for the photo quality, by the way. I tried using the flash and got photos that looked way too glossy, so I shot the pics here without the flash - which made them significantly blurrier. [EDIT: fixed legend - my example isn't the same as the Wildwinds one] Edited by january1may
09/01/2017 9:02 pm
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Our best bet here would be a Sassanian Khusro I, correct? I have one, but I think it is year 6, 537. Anybody have a Khusro I year 30-something?
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Yep, I've got a Khusru I, but as it dates from 551 AD, I've been waiting until after we get past the decade of the 560s to post it.
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Our best bet here would be a Sassanian Khusro I, correct? That or a Byzantine Justinian I - there are dated issues of him too I just don't have any. (Or, at least, I think I don't have any.) I do, however, have a Justin II that's just barely too late to advance this thread...   Justin II and Sophia, 565-578 AD. Follis (40 nummi), Nicomedia mint, SB 369. 26x25 mm, 9 grams. Obverse: D N IVSTI-[NVS P P AVG], Justin on left, Sophia on right, seated facing on double-throne, both nimbate, Justin holding cross on globe, Sophia holding sceptre, perhaps with cross between their heads. Reverse: large M, ANNO to left, cross above, regnal year 6 to right, officina letter B below, mintmark NIKO. This coin was my first successful addition to Numista; there was a page for the same type with regnal year 5 (in retrospect that date doesn't look like a 5 to me either), and I requested an extra line for year 6 (both of the coins were officina B, so I didn't want to clarify that specifically), citing, IIRC, the Wildwinds example. The request was successfully granted, and I entered my coin immediately (actually, IIRC, due to the way Numista requesting works, I entered my coin before the request was granted). I was not able to successfully add a page (rather than a line) to Numista until many months later. |
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Lookin' for a coin from the decade of the 560s AD.  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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