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Shotgun Rolls With IHC Showing

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Here is another classic scam from a seller at e-bay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-SHOTGUN-R...em43c929d28b
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 Posted 01/28/2015  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is great IMO is a roll has IHCs on both ends, AND is "unsearched",
as in unopened... Yet somehow, the seller still calls it a LWC roll.

Why would they not call it an IHC roll?!? Certainly that would be common
sense... since they wouldn't know what was between the IHCs.

Someone should leave that question on their auctions.
"Would this not be a roll of IHCs since there is one on each end?" LoL
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 Posted 01/28/2015  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it's a scam when he tells you exactly what you are buying (50 pennies mostly 30's, 40's and 50's with an Indian cent on the end). I think it's a little bit unethical though as it plays on people's emotions.

On the other hand, the guys selling "bank wrapped" silver dollar rolls (or Mason jars from some nonexistent western ranch hoard loaded with "possible" key date coins showing) are on the "scammer" side of the fence.

People buy on emotions. They are sitting on ebay right now just waiting to hit the "Buy Now" button.

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 Posted 01/28/2015  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdh157 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
give him credit, sold 56 rolls in the past 24 hours.....
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You don't think this is feeding the entire family?

Little Sally is carefully pre-loading each wrapper with an Indian Head cent from her dish.
Her brother Mikey is carefully counting out 46 coins from the "junk bucket"
Older brother Sam is picking one from the so-so jar and then one from the "meh" box, except every 3rd roll he instead uses the "almost good" jar.
Sissy takes the 48 coins from Mikey and Sam and shakes them up and puts them into the roll started by Sally.
Cousin Elaine is putting the final Indian Head sent on top (she sits across from Sally so they can share the dish).
Finally Mom is carefully closing each roll with her $2.97 plastic crimper (bought on ebay following the directions from the "make a fortune selling unsearched rolls on ebay dot com site)

Da is riding the exercise bike to power the generator. After chasing LucyAnn off the phone (why ever is she still talking to that boy) sos they can dial up that AOL.

And Billy-Bub (he actually graduated 6th grade - well supposedly, he couldn't find the Gym to pick up his deploma) is carefully listing each roll on ebay.

When something sells, The Spinster cousin LucyAnn-Ann (named for both of HER Grandmas) carefully fills out the shipping label in her precise penmanship. She then selects three pages from the Sears & Roebuck catalog (they are up to 1958 from the pile found in the shed out back - Pappy says "Tol you those would come in handy some day"), rolls the roll in them and then fills the rest of the envelope with Straw (can you b'leve they sell these things 2 for $1 at the dolla store?). She then has the ole blind dog lick the stamps (bought for less than face at a show) and sticks them on the envelope.

Finally, once a week (on Saturday), Geema drives down to the Post Office and mails out the rolls. She only goes once a week, so when she dies they can advertise her car as "only driven once a week by a little old lady"...
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All I can say is...

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01/28/2015 1:03 pm
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Maybe I have a unethical streak but he clearly states what he is selling. I don't really have any problem with it, he's treating the Indian Head cent as a bonus on the end. Not that I would do it but it's extremely tempting thing to sale, it isn't a scam just a sales tactic playing on emotions of the customer. A mans got to make a living somehow.

Disclaimer though I have thought about becoming a insurance salesman sometime so maybe my ethics is totally out of whack :).
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BStrauss3- Hilarious

I really object to the listings that use the supposed key dates on each end. That's deceptive. This one is actually quite creative and only a tiny bit deceptive. He says he doesn't search them, but I'm sure that if a key date happened to be noticed on the top of the pile, it wouldn't end up in a roll. He's selling them cheap enough so I don't think he's trying to mislead anyone. The only thing questionable is that he says that they are from the teens, twenties, and so on. Chances are, all but a few are going to be from the 40s and 50s.

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The listing says he sold 62 in the past 24 hours.
62 X $10 per roll is $620.

$620 A DAY!! That's doctor money!!
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Pro America; no it's scamming for dollars !
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$620 A DAY!! That's doctor money!!

I actually contacted him today to see if he is also buying. He pays $2 per roll.

So:
$2 cost of goods
$.60 ebay fees
$.59 paypal fees
$.75 shipping supplies
$2.86 postage

Total $6.80
Profit $3.20
X62 $198.40 Not bad, but not doctor money.
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What a way to start my day.

When I checked out this guys sight, I had inadvertently clicked on "Add To Wish List".
Later on, my wife saw them on the wish list and came up to me and said "Surprise, I got that roll of cents for you that were on your wish list."
Fortunately, the seller understood my situation and refunded my money before the coins were sent out.
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Nickel Guy, are you sure it was an accident when hit the wish list button?

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You forget Grandma goes to the bank and gets some penny boxes to go through for wheat cents and off to the coin dealer to pick up Indian Head cents for 50 cents a piece. Charging $10 for something that costs 99 cents.
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02/03/2015 05:38 am
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Sorry, Buddy, the bank BANNED Grandma when they figured out she was only putting 49 cents into the 50 cent rolls she was depositing into her Christmas Club account...
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BStrauss3......that is some funny stuff! Well played!
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