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1942 Lincoln - Mint Error Or PMD?

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The reason it is weaker on the left is because the thing it struck through made it harder for the rest of the die to get the the coin while the rest of the die went to the rest of the coin.
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I would grade it a strong VG-07 in my opinion. The wear and the large dings and scratches bring it down there for me.


Good points. I agree. It's a darn shame this coin is not in higher grade. If it's this interesting in VG-07 I wonder what it must have looked like when it was in mint state? What a wonder that it has circulated for 73 years without anyone plucking it for their collection.
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Ahh man, it would look amazing.
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Well...no complaints here. You can't beat the price I acquired it for! <CHUCKLE>
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The reason it is weaker on the left is because the thing it struck through made it harder for the rest of the die to get the the coin while the rest of the die went to the rest of the coin.


Cool! This is exactly what I had deduced, but I wanted to see if others reached the same conclusion.

I'm still thinking about whether or not I agree with the idea that the obverse is due to a grease filled obverse die. I suppose it is very likely that if debris got in there with the planchet then greasy goop could have gotten in there as well, but if the obverse was strictly the result of a Grease Filled Die than why didn't the obverse rim strike up fully in the area missing letters from the mottos IN GOD WE TRUST and from LIBERTY?

I've seen other "greasers" and the rim is usually unaffected. I also find it interesting that the rim is ONLY affected in the area directly opposite the damage caused to the reverse by the struck-through debris. The moment you reach the end of the damage and flip the coin over, the rim is good and so is any lettering. So, this being the case, I'm inclined to agree that the errors on the obverse and reverse are ONE BIG ERROR caused by the debris that was struck through. It seems to have screwed with the metal flow on the obverse in a way that caused several letters and the rim not to strike up.

If I'm bonkers with this theory then I'm more than willing to hear what really caused the missing letters and rim from those with much more expertise in this area than I possess. I just want to have reasonable certainty about what I have here.
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I think a greasy object got in the way. The rim is unaffected because it is formed before the design is pressed in. But yes, one big error.
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On a Grease Filled Die, the rim can be weakened or strong.
Weak rim:
1942-Lincoln---Mint-Error-Or-PMD?
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1942-Lincoln---Mint-Error-Or-PMD?

Strong rim:
1942-Lincoln---Mint-Error-Or-PMD?
1942-Lincoln---Mint-Error-Or-PMD?
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Did anyone consider a prestrike delamination?
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Wouldn't it be a hoot if this was a 3-errors coin? How wild would that be?

1) Pre-Strikke Lamination on the reverse of the planchet.
2) Struck Through Debris on the reverse.
3) Struck Through Grease on the obverse.

If so, are multiple errors regarded as more valuable by the market?
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