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1812 Large Cent

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Thinking about picking this up from my primary dealer. How would you grade it?

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1812-Large-Cent

1812-Large-Cent

1812-Large-Cent

1812-Large-Cent
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1812 S-291 R.2 15/10.
This coin looks almost exactly like my S-288!
It's definitely an S-291, the little dash under the E in one is diagnostic. I'll give it an EAC grade of F-15 to VF-20, it's right on the edge so I'll err on the side of caution and say 15.
The corrosion really kills the net grade though. (I just went through this with my own green 1812 so don't feel bad). I'll have to net grade it down 2 grades to VG-10, sorry.
This type of corrosion is common to Classic Head Large Cents as the copper used for the planchets was recycled from domestic sources. This is one of the reasons Classic Heads are such a difficult series to collect.
Great coin though.
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Nothing to be sorry about, facts are facts. I never knew that, about domestic, recycled copper being used for the planchets. Very interesting. I learn something new every time I visit CCF.
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The U.S. was at war with Britain at the time and almost all of the mint's copper planchets came from the Boulton and Watt company in England. Unable to get copper for coin production the mint started buying old copper kettles, pots and cooking utensils to make cents and Half Cents out of.
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If they thought history like that in school, Id have paid much closer attention. Speaking of which, how great would a Numismatic University be? I'm sure there is something close out there, just not to my knowledge.
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Celticsoul. I have an 1808 12 star which exhibits the same issue. Is there anyway to correct this as it appears to be getting worse. Ihave had the coin for about 40 years
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Verdicare would probably improve the look a lot.....darken it and kill the green.
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A good acetone soak to try to get off any flaky residue and then maybe Verdi-Care to arrest the corrosion is the best you can do.
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F Details
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VG-10 details
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Look like it has F details. I think a TPG may call it environmental damage because of the porosity.
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