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1838 Capped Bust Half Question

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Found this on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1838-Capped...em4d2ed61193

I'm trying to figure out if it's real or fake. If it's real is the price low?
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I have no explanation for it given the seller's usual offerings and record. This is a $5000+ coin if real. I don't trust the denticles at all - they're too strong - but the pics are too small for much.
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Looks too shiny. If it is real it's been whizzed. The pics are probably small for a reason. The seller probably doesn't want you to get a good look at it.
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Way too shiny! Looks like it was made yesterday.

Also, why isn't a coin of that value slabbed? . Red flag.
Let's not forget the obvious, $500 or best offer for a $5000 coin!
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Yeah that's what I was thinking. Thanks!
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Details look pretty accurate to me; if it's a fake it's a deceptive one, at least in these photos. As a reeded edge type the strong denticles are not a red flag IMO. It may well be whizzed and/or polished to produce that glaring shine.

With these surfaces I can't see it as an original Unc, in which case it might be valued as an "altered surface" slider. With a PCGS retail price of $1200 for a certified problem-free MS-60, the opening bid of $500 might actually be a realistic net-grade price.
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I was considering buying it but I thought it didn't look right for the price.
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I am pretty sure that one has been whizzed, most obvious on the left side of the last photo.
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Take Jaobler's words to heart where they may differ from mine; he's better with the issue. Wouldn't touch this one with stolen money.
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The luster looks completely wrong, and I see hairlines in the fields. I say real, but harshly whizzed.
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Looks like a whizzed one to me.
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What would be a good value on this piece?
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Definitely a real, but, harshly whizzed AU details coin. Probably worth about $150.
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