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I Found A 1909 VDB S Cent Update After Bath

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I have been swamped at work and have not have anytime for coin related activities. This evening I decided to go through 3 rolls of wheat's cents that were from my Grandmothers estate. These were in blue Whitman folders and they were complete, but I had pulled the good coins months ago. The rest I placed in 3 plastic tubes. I was planning to pull some of the teen S mints and put them in 2x2's. Looking at each coin with a loupe, I was on the last roll. Remember me saying that I pulled the good coins? I was wrong.



I think this is a 3 pepper find. (I also woke up the cat)

Update: I soaked the cents for 45 min, I took a few quick snapshots to give the readers an idea of the results.
The VDB S cent has some cool toning under the tape.
please comments are welcome. What do you think?
Did this help or hurt the coin(s)?


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after a 45 min soak

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The cents were cello taped in many years ago, (late 50's early 60's) Any tips on removing the tape?

Again a 45 min soak
I just noticed the L in liberty is missing. Any ideas?

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Try soaking in a little bit of acetone for a few minutes, the old tape should lift off.
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Three peppers at least!
Awesome find. The acetone should work, although the areas formally covered by tape may have different color than the exposed surfaces so your cent may end up with a blotchy look. Also, you have some light corrosion showing on this coin which hopefully is not going to get worse.
I wonder if this coin would be worth getting "conserved" by NCS. It's worth quite a bit as is, but would probably be worth a lot more if NCS could fix it up so it could then be slabbed by their sister company NGC.
I'll see your peppers and raise you an orange!
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I'm a Xylene fan when it comes to cents. Try it on some of your non 1909 coins first to see if you like the results.

Once the xylene is removed, put it in acetone for a minute or two.

You can get it at Home Depot next to the acetone. Unfortunately, it always comes in a huge container.
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That's nice to find.
looks like glue.
I'll probably get lamb basted here
but I have tried diff. light cleanup methods.
soaking in baking soda and water (mix well first) with a light soft brushing. Also used distilled white vinegar and water. the adhesive will come off easily
with most petroleum based products but not sure which ones
would be harmful so I won't suggest one or another.
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I will not use any abrasives on my coins. All it would take is one little grain something harder than copper to be in the paste you mixed up to ruin the coin. Could be in the baking soda, on the brush, in the container...
All it would take is one.

The good thing is I have all the other cents that were in the same Whitman folder, with the same tape on them. most likely from the same roll. So I have practice material. they are all G-8 to F-12
so they are good experimental targets.

I'll post pictures of the coins, before and after they enter the swimming pool.

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Wow, great find! A lot of people dream about finding something like this...congrads!
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Helped tremendously! :D
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Very nice 7070!

Jim
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7070, I can only dream. congratulations on probably your best circulated find of a lifetime.
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What happened to the "L" in "Liberty?" It was in the earlier pictures, but is now missing.

Did the Acetone eat it away?
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The L has always been missing. look at the last 4 photos.

Hey, Its a mint error, is it worth more?
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There's two coins he's showing CommandD, that's why you been seeing the 'L' on some of his pictures.

I'm sure someone will say 'struck thru grease'. I'd assume it's worth more.
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quote:
The L has always been missing. look at the last 4 photos.

Hey, Its a mint error, is it worth more?


I saw this in the grading forum. The missing L is way, way cool in my books. It's like it was never there, not a trace from the pics. How about a close up pic of the L area 7070? I'm just wondering if there's any old physical damage there or if it's clean....it looks clean to me.

To some it will detract from the value IMO, for others it adds value if it's a genuine filled die or whatever. I like that coin!
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Great You lucky dog you I agree with No abrasives. I think the way to restore copper is the olive, mineral, linseed oil method. Might get some of the color back.

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Hi, The first 4 pics of your 1909 S VDB seems suspect of being an altered coin. Need a close up picture of the VDB. Besides the mint mark S is not in the right position.
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