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"OGP at $195" ....... And that's for TWO sets which nets them out at $97.50 EACH! (About 50% over issue price which is not unreasonable for this stage of the game on a sellout.)
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I think will just sit on my OGP sets and see what happens to them over the next 10 years.......
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I just want to point out there is a significant financial different btw sitting on UN-OPEN OGP sets and OPENED OGP sets.
Both are raw set in OGP but if it's sealed, the pedigree for the whole set is there vs just the unique coin.
Just my 2-cents.
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"OGP at $195" ....... And that's for TWO sets which nets them out at $97.50 EACH! After ebay/paypal fees & free shipping, that's not much of a profit, maybe 35 bucks? Though I suppose it IS profit and pays for half a set. Edited by CelticKnot
05/13/2015 6:49 pm
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Both are raw set in OGP but if it's sealed, the pedigree for the whole set is there vs just the unique coin. Pedigree? Joe Blow at the mint putting the dollar in the three coin set box versus the single coin box doesn't quality as a pedigree to me. Besides, if the pedigree being the original packaging is so important, than why take it away from the original packaging? |
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Joe Blow at the mint putting the dollar in the three coin set box versus the single coin box doesn't quality as a pedigree to me Then you should NOT buying the set, just buy those dimes separately and be done with it, since you don't really care about the packaging and/or the coin within. Btw, my previous posts are not to you nor responding to your posts. I believe we all know and understand your point of view and your stand clearly. Those messages are for many other readers/members as another perspective so they can consider their options, those members/readers in the middle road. Edited by SA4H
05/13/2015 7:14 pm
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So it is now, $119 for NGC 69 and $229 for NGC 70 on ebay. |
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Then you should NOT buying the set, just buy those dimes separately and be done with it, since you don't really care about the packaging and/or the coin within. I would buy some dimes separately, but they were not offered that way from the mint. If I purchased them off ebay now, they'd cost me more than the set. And, I actually do like the packaging. It just seems beyond ironic to me to have a special label for packaging a coin once had. If the packaging is so important, then keep it in it. BTW, I didn't think you were replying to me. I was just replying to your use of the word pedigree. Pedigree is generally associated with who once owned something, not the box it was shipped in. |
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Regarding the '96 W dime somebody mentioned...this MOD set is the reason I started picking some more of them up a couple months ago-picked up a few raw and few graded-prices are decent enough still,time will tell but I figure it couldnt hurt-guess there are quite a few out there tho...also after I ordered my 3 MOD sets I ordered one more thats on backorder now and since ill have no reason to open it anytime soon are you guys recommending just keeping it sealed in the shipping box from the mint?
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Pedigree is generally associated with who once owned something, not the box it was shipped in. Pedigree or provenance  I refuse to buy into the marketing gimmick label game. I can only image the shopping network shows going crazy spreading their rhetoric about the fancy "first day" and "only 75K proofs dollars can be slabbed with this historical label" from the set but the viewers are really stuck paying 10X the price of a coin that has a maximum mintage of 500K because of what the label says. Edited by jack jeckel
05/13/2015 10:55 pm
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Pedigree: an ancestral line; line of descent; lineage; ancestry.
Provenance: a record of ownership of a work of art or an antique, used as a guide to authenticity or quality.
I think either would work, but Provenance is probably better to describe the ownership history. Pedigree is more of a genetic thing. Things that have either generally cost more versus things that don't.
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I haven't, but has anyone seen any of the TV hawkers selling this set yet?
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Quote:- Non-Unique 2006-W Proof in PF70 (with the 20th Anniversary pedigree) stay relatively the same at around the $110 range. Why? There are many 2006-W PF so getting the PF70 is not hard and for to get the pedigree in PF70 is not hard either because it's a PF coin with better striking quality. Here's one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-W-PF70...em35e9edcbe3- Non-Unique 2006-W Burnished in MS70 (with the 20th Anniversary pedigree) was around the $300 range pre-frenzee and now at $700+ range, IF you can find one (here's one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-W-1-AM...m35e95276b9. WHY? This one is totally opposite of the 2006-W PF since it's the first Burnished coin, the quality is not as high, harder to get in MS70 (just do a search on ebay), it's even HARDER to get MS70 with the pedigree. I didn't buy one of the 2006-W Burnished in MS70 so I will NEVER have a completed 70 set for 2006 ASE. I will be getting a OGP set though. Hmmmm...you got me thinking and I mostly agree with your premise....except for: ...one reason the MS 06-W is hard to find for sale is that it was issued 9 years ago and sales decrease with time and it is not a high price item that repeatedly turns over ...you are correct in that it was harder to get a 70 from the new burnished W and the percentages support that (using NGC stats 'cuz it's easier for me) 20th set MS 06-W resulted in 17.6% 70's (7344) ...but the not-from-the-set 06-W was only 16.5% (10667..not far from the 20th) Yet one sells for $90-100 and the other $750-800. Why the extreme price difference? The regular W has a lower percent of 70's from submissions...yes, 2700 more in POP but not that dramatic.. The 20th Annie W has a higher percentage of 70's (and 7344 vs. 10667 in POP) I say (as you cringe) it is the "20th Anniversary Set" label not the quality issues since that applies to both coins. ..and yes the PF is double the percentage of 70's so that price makes sense. ...and I think this thread has been hijacked so I will refrain from any further non-MOD Set discussion  Edited by Foxwoods Man
05/14/2015 07:35 am
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Within in the discussion about the 20th Anniversary Eagle most here seem to forget that ASE are X-times more popular than dimes. So please don't argue that because an RP-ASE is now worth a lot more than issue the same will be true for RP dimes. 75k is a lot and likely to satisfy collector demand for some time. I can see the set selling for some $80-$100 max in the near future, but not much more than that because those who needed it for their collection will have bought one directly from the mint. It reminds me of the RP buffalo - remember the frenzy to order one the first day they became available. Now they sell for below issue... Of course, $1600 is a tad more than $60, but don't hold your breath for this set. |
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Correct...you will not be able to retire by purchasing this set...but...you will also not lose money by purchasing this set.
I eventually see the raw set landing in the $125-130 range with a graded 70's set in the $300-350 range
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05/14/2015 08:27 am
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