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worldnumis Pillar of the Community United States 731 Posts	Posted 05/21/2015 7:29 pm This is a nice high grade piece that is clearly double struck. It weighs 26.8 grams and looks like it may be overlapped at approximately 6 and 12 o'clock, but I'm not sure. I can't scan the edges. Is it possibly genuine? Report this Post to the Staff

wonghinghi Pillar of the Community Hong Kong 1270 Posts	Posted 05/22/2015 11:21 am It looks very nice. Is it an UNC? Report this Post to the Staff
worldnumis Pillar of the Community United States 731 Posts	Posted 05/22/2015 5:28 pm It may be Unc., but I would grade it a choice AU because of the bagging or handling marks on the portrait side. Report this Post to the Staff
worldnumis Pillar of the Community United States 731 Posts	Posted 06/18/2015 2:39 pm Wonghinghi----Does it look okay to you? Maybe Swamperbob will have some comments. Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 06/18/2015 4:16 pm The coin looks very nice - die designs are correct based on a rather quick review of style. I would suggest that SG is needed as a minimum and that only XRF can make the final call. I have seen modern Numismatic Forgeries that were double struck to cover some of the die problems. A double struck coin always needs extra scrutiny before accepting it as genuine. Report this Post to the Staff
worldnumis Pillar of the Community United States 731 Posts	Posted 06/18/2015 4:42 pm Thanks Swamperbob. I had thought about sending it to a TPG, but I don't think they are that thorough at authenticating these types. I hate slabs on top of that and own very few. Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 06/18/2015 10:37 pm You are absolutely correct about the TPGs - they do not do Specific Gravity. They also do not even WEIGH the coins. So I would not trust any of them to authenticate this particular coin. You actually need to become an authenticator yourself. That was a primary issue in my book. Until all collectors become authenticators for their own selected series of coins - fraud will abound. Collectors must WEIGH, calculate SG and check visual designs on ALL of their coins. Until that happens forgers will have a wide open field. Report this Post to the Staff
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