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1884-CC Morgan Dollar, Toned (Grade Posted)

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Recent acquisition.
1884-CC Morgan dollar, Toned..

This one in TPG plastic..
Opinions appreciated!
I haven't checked the VAM out on this one yet..
Thanks for looking, -Ron

(Colors are fairly close to in hand, untoned areas have good luster..)
1884-CC-Morgan-Dollar,-Toned-Grade-Posted

Cracked from a GSA slab.. Thanks all for the opinions.
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(Seller pics, colors a little washed out..)
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MS64 for me
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Nice dark spectrum burnt orange toning
I have it at 63 possibly 64 on the right day if the grader ups it for the color
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I grade it:
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MS-63.
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64. Amazing coin.
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Yeah, MS (64)
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VAM-8, I think (from the pattern of cracking through the date), and clearly double-clashed. I wonder what might be there for letter transfer on the obverse? The VAMworld entry for this one doesn't include clashing information, and it might be a nice addition to the page. The plate coin shows a single weak reverse clash.

I began by agonizing whether to call this 63 or 64, from all the marks I was seeing. Then, it began to be like, "Would I give this a 65 if that one prominent mark in front of the ear weren't there? Would I give it a 65 if that were the only mark on the cheek? Yeah, I probably would. So, it's a 64.

And the eye appeal? Off the charts. Not manic, but completely original to date of mintage having survived the entire time in a Mint bag. Note the radius of the toning on half-toners like this one - it should correspond pretty well with the diameter of the Morgan next to it in the bag, covering the part that didn't tone. This one stuck out of the stack.

Don't forget, the atmosphere in a city those days was far more sulfurous than the one we breathe now. The Industrial Revolution turned coal into something everybody had to burn, and coal means sulfur. Coins would tone just laying about, in that atmosphere. It's why Seated and Barber coinage get so dark. It's terminal toning, exactly as you'd expect in that atmosphere. They do say that almost every Morgan has been dipped at one time or another - could these toners be the only for-sure original ones left?
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Once again you sum things up so eloquently dave. I love crescents for just that reason. It shows flat out that it was in the vaults all those years just like textile toners. My avatar double crecent is my favorite because of that (until I get a bold textile monster that is)
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My initial thought MS64.

Great description Dave.
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In that order... and it got a green bean, boy in hand those dings must fade away
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Just goes to show you how super-sized photos can really show off minor imperfections. Nice Morgan!
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Quote:
Just goes to show you how super-sized photos can really show off minor imperfections.


Methinks I oughta read my own words on the subject more carefully.
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