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2015 High Relief 24k Gold Coin

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 Posted 08/04/2015  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrpapageorgio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate the thought, but it wasn't my coin. I found it on another website.
Here's what mine looks like after arriving today. Tried to get the best pics considering the lighting and not an expert photographer. Does this look MS 70?

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This is basically me right now. :D
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All right, mine just came in the mail:


Absolutely stunning coin congrats .
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 Posted 08/05/2015  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dmalivecn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My coin will arrive tomorrow. Assume it is in good condition, I will plan to have it graded. Which is the better option, NGC or PCGS?
I just renewed my PCGS membership and have the voucher but not sure if it can be applied to gold coins.
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mrpapageorgio, the reverse of your coin show pretty well the polishing marks that I'm talking about, although they are not quite as evident on your coin. I am just curious what others here think. Would you find that acceptable on such an expensive coin (or even an inexpensive coin)?
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Here's what mine looks like after arriving today. Tried to get the best pics considering the lighting and not an expert photographer.
Looks very nice.
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 Posted 08/05/2015  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrpapageorgio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
According to this article, approximately 42,000 have sold as of the August 3rd. http://www.coinnews.net/2015/08/03/...83-9-of-max/
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mrpapageorgio, the reverse of your coin show pretty well the polishing marks that I'm talking about, although they are not quite as evident on your coin. I am just curious what others here think. Would you find that acceptable on such an expensive coin (or even an inexpensive coin)?


@Bret: Minimal die polish as exhibited by the coin above are considered acceptable. In fact I submitted a 2009 UHR to PCGS for my brother-in-law and it came back MS70 with very similar die polish. I realize conventional wisdom is that die polish affects market value and not grade. Be that as it may the polishing on the coin above are (likely) not even visible to the naked eye.

Severe die polish lines as you describe and others have posted images of elsewhere are not acceptable and should not be shipped to customers.

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Mine also shows very apparent die polishing like Bret mentioned. Based on this, the images in the advertisement do not accurately represent the coin's surface in the fields, it really is that apparent with the naked eye.

The coin, however is stunning and one of the most beautiful if not the most beautiful coin I own. I like it a ton and don't want to send it back.
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For the price of these, the mint should remelt anything that isn't a 70.


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The coin, however is stunning and one of the most beautiful if not the most beautiful coin I own. I like it a ton and don't want to send it back.

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For the price of these, the mint should remelt anything that isn't a 70.

The thing is that from a wear standpoint, the coin I received is a 70. From a quality of strike standpoint, which is not reflected in the grade, it's an F. What was their purpose in polishing the dies? If it was to create a smoother surface, then they failed terribly. I find it hard to believe that the coins produced after the die polishing look better than the last ones produced before the die polishing.
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I think this polishing evident in the fields had to have been done on purpose. I think that's probably what they were going for, not a completely smooth surface. It's just too obvious to have been a mistake that shows on 100% of the coins I have seen posted online.
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 Posted 08/06/2015  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrpapageorgio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I posted in a separate thread, but there's scratch marks on the rim of the reverse between "States of" and what looks to be a little bit of gold residue on the rim by the DE stamp at 4 o'clock as if some residue dropped on the coin as it was being stamped or the blank was being created. I love the coin, but I think I'm going to exchange it to see if I can get one with a little better QC.
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 Posted 08/06/2015  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hollywood to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2014 Gold JFK 3/4oz 73,215 out of 75,000 sold (1,785 left)

2015 Gold Liberty 1oz 42,167 out of 50,000 sold (7,833 left)

http://www.coinnews.net/2015/08/05/...in-at-42167/

http://www.numismaticnews.net/artic...old-worth-it

http://www.numismaticnews.net/artic...-orders-drop

Which one do you think will sell out first and then skyrocket on the secondary markets ?

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2014 Gold JFK 3/4oz 73,215 out of 75,000 sold (1,785 left)


I'm not sure what it means to say that there are 1,785 left, since the product is listed as "currently unavailable" on the Mint's website.
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