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1967 1 Cent Double Struck?

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 Posted 07/07/2015  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice coin I liked even if it does not look like the one spp posted.dont be too quick to get ready it..
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 Posted 07/07/2015  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I still like it too. I am going to take more detailed pictures and post them to see if we can figure this one out. I think the second strike (false/soft die strike) of the queen has amazingly good detail. I am impressed with whomever faked this coin...if that is what happened.
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 Posted 07/08/2015  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I took some extra pictures to show more of the details of the coin in question.

This shot shows how much of a larger diameter the coin has.


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These 3 shots show the railroad like rim and the somewhat flattened rim area on the obverse and reverse



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And some closer pics of the key areas on the reverse and obverse. Please note that the coin is warped very similar to an off center or broadstruck coin can be. You can see it between the 2 strikes of DG Regina.



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I am not trying to push that it is real but just showing some of the other details not present in my first pics. I don't want to dismiss it and return the coin without being certain. All opinions are welcome on this. Thanks a lot! Rob

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 Posted 07/08/2015  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am leaning to legit. Coin in hand would be required for positive response/negative response.
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 Posted 07/08/2015  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
try to find die markers that match for the first and second strike....this will help cause both strikes would occur from the same die.
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I don't know anything about these kinds of errors, but doesn't that "railroad" rim indicate that the coin was struck 4 times? I might be imagining things, but I think I see 4 different sets of beads on the reverse in the first set of photos. Are those beads directly above "CENT" or just something about the photo? And then the more distinct beads above CENT closer to the rim seem to have two different arcs. Well anyway, I find this discussion interesting.
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 Posted 07/08/2015  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see what you mean, Kppbll. I will try to get better photos of the area above cent on the reverse.
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I am still puzzled why the second (or last) strike on the reverse, is missing the beads on the left side of the reverse - that is the hammer die, they should be there, especially since we see them from the first strike...
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 Posted 07/09/2015  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for adding these extra pics.

I find the 4 clear stacked rim images to be very interesting
..and an important added detail.

..but I'll let the experts try to work this out.
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I don't know where to go from here. I have never had a potential double or multiple struck coin in my possession before.

I wonder if Mike Diamond has checked this thread out? If you say his name out loud three times does he suddenly appear? Mike Diamond, Mike Diamond, Mike Diamond. Lol
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 Posted 07/09/2015  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What about struck twice both times partially out of collar, creating a double railroad rim effect? Coin may have been on a slight angle in collar causing the beads not to strike up very well on the left of the reverse and the right of the obverse.
The last picture is kind of odd it nearly looks like 3 strikes.

Well thats my guess until we hear from more of the experts.
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 Posted 07/10/2015  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a genuine double strike to me. The four steps on the edge suggests we might be dealing with two successive partial collar strikes. But face-on, the first strike looks to have been fully within the collar while the second strike looks like it was an uncentered broadstrike. Puzzling. The incomplete arc of beads on the reverse face is also a bit puzzling, but it doesn't unduly alarm me. Figuring out precisely what happened would take a close-up exam.
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Thank you Mike, Spp, nickelsguy, and all the rest that passed on opinions. I appreciate it.
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