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1793 Cent Or Will He Win His Own Coin Again

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 Posted 08/24/2015  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent my guy exactly what you posted here, what I quoted above, and its flat out wrong.
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You have multiple listings that are in violation of this requirement that items with a starting bid of $2500 of more MUST receive a numeric grade from an approved TPG. Ironically, one of your listings that violates this policy is a 1793 cent (301715266084).


I see nothing here that violates ebay policy.
Front and back of slab, accurate description as far as I'm concerned, and the buyer can make his own decisions on whether to buy or not buy the coin based on the sellers description/terms.
So this is a details coin and no numeric grade. Is he supposed to put nothing then in title and description?
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I see nothing here that violates ebay policy.


The fact that he doesn't know what an NGC slab looks like hasn't stopped him from continuing to type.
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The scam/fraud that g048406 is complaining about is an actual scam that hurts buyers and the collective ebay community. Even if g048406's listings may have had a few infractions (I don't see anything wrong with them), he is a proffessional coin dealer who operates a brick-and-mortar store who provides this extra information with the intent to help the buyer, not to make the buyer pay what the seller wants at a number far above what the coin is worth.

How about this? I put a coin up for action that is in my own slab with an MS-65 designation and the high-retail correspoding value on it, and show this extra information only in the pictures and not write anything about it in the title and description. I am technically following ebay rules, but I know that the coin is AU, but I still try to represent it for something better than what it is. An inexperienced and uninformed individual may pay a lot more than the coin is worth because he/she does not know what he/she is doing and trusts my "proffessional" opinion because my coin is in a slab. I get an unscrupulously earned bonus profit, annd the buyer gets stuck with a coin which he/she paid too much for and does not know it.

Which is the real scam?
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sent my guy exactly what you posted here, what I quoted above, and its flat out wrong.


I just looked, and they are all the same coin.
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The real problem with what wholesalecoins99 is doing is that it flat out violates ebay's rules. If ebay is not going to enforce their shilling rules, than they need to revise their rules.
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I just looked, and they are all the same coin.


Look again, they are NOT.
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Well, DUH. I should have seen that.
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I will try this 1 LAST time and than let wholesalecoins99 aka randyK continue on his merry shilling way....ebay item #271949899411 was sold to s***i(59) PCGS cert#25206504
ebay item #400976048119 was sold to s***i(59) PCGS cert#25206504
These are both the same coin in the same holder sold by the same seller to the same shill bidder......I don't know what more I can do to prove this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1793-1C-Wre...047675.l2557
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1793-1C-Wre...047675.l2557
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One of those new links differs from the original two posted, which I also saw myself linked to two different PCGS slabs.
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The original two auction links posted were NOT the same coin. The second go round posted by g048406 were the same coin. The only person getting screwed here is ebay.
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I put a coin up for action that is in my own slab with an MS-65 designation and the high-retail corresponding value on it, and show this extra information only in the pictures and not write anything about it in the title and description. I am technically following ebay rules, but I know that the coin is AU, but I still try to represent it for something better than what it is.


Any grades in an image of a raw coin (non-compliant slab) must be obscured according to ebay rules.
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