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 Posted 01/17/2016  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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both 'QD' and 'RRD' can both be decoded as 'A'


Both QD and RRD can NOT be decoded as the same letter.

Hint #14: QD would decode as M. RRD would decode as an O.
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 Posted 01/17/2016  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So the first word is four letters long, the last two letters being ME, while RS U is two letters letters long, ending with an E. Just going off two words that seem most likely (to me)...

Does B EA TZ U decode into the word some?
Does RS U decode into the word be?
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Is the 2nd and 3rd word combined 11 letters ?
The question about QD and RRD ? Where is this D coming from? is it hypothetical or ...?



Thank you for the contest it actually is fun but seems like a lot of work on your part too I appreciate the contest :)
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01/17/2016 4:17 pm
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 Posted 01/17/2016  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UberDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From all the letter groups that we know, are there only 7 more letters in unknown letter groups, not in 4s or the other groups you told us about?
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Does B EA TZ U decode into the word some?
Does RS U decode into the word be?


No.

No.
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 Posted 01/17/2016  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UberDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How can what you've been telling us be true?

There are 69 encoded letters, 48 of which are groups of 4 according to you. Then there is 6 taken up by 2s, 3 taken by 3s, and 4 taken up by 1s. Which leaves 7 we don't know.

Then we know we have 32 decoded letters, 12 are taken by 4s, 3 by 2s, 1 taken by 3s, and 4 taken by 1s. That leaves 12 encoded letter groups that we need to find. Problem is, we only have 7 encoded letters left.

7 cannot go into 12 and make a whole number, so either decoded letters can have half a encoded letter in them or you weren't telling the whole truth.
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Is the 2nd and 3rd word combined 11 letters ?

The question about QD and RRD ? Where is this D coming from? is it hypothetical or ...?


The 2nd and 3rd word combined are 9 letters (uncoded).

I don't know where the D is coming from.

If it were part of the coded message, it would NOT be hypothetical. There are NO letters in the coded messages that do not mean something.

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As for the 'QD' and 'RRD', I made those up just for the purpose of the question. I didn't want to use actual encrypted letters.
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01/17/2016 5:04 pm
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How can what you've been telling us be true?


You don't have to play if don't think I'm being honest.


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There are 69 encoded letters, 48 of which are groups of 4 according to you. Then there is 6 taken up by 2s, 3 taken by 3s, and 4 taken up by 1s. Which leaves 7 we don't know.


Your math does not reflect this coded message.

Hint #14: There are 6 letters in the uncoded message that use 4 letters each to encode them.


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Then we know we have 32 decoded letters, 12 are taken by 4s, 3 by 2s, 1 taken by 3s, and 4 taken by 1s. That leaves 12 encoded letter groups that we need to find. Problem is, we only have 7 encoded letters left.


Your premise is not true. Like I said in Hint #14, only 6 letters in the uncoded phrase use 4 letters apiece to encode them.


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7 cannot go into 12 and make a whole number, so either decoded letters can have half a encoded letter in them or you weren't telling the whole truth.


There are no half-letters in this code. Once again, the choice to play in this contest is yours.
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01/17/2016 5:15 pm
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I cannot figure out the grouping or the pattern in why certain letters are grouped with others . I am doing something wrong or overlooking something
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I think the contest is great! That being said, I've spent 3 days working on it, studied at least 20-30 known coding mechanisms, and I am no closer to breaking it than I was the first time I saw it. I've got 4 full notebook pages of letter charts & 3 full pages of math problems!

We know that:
U = E
TZ = M
QD = M
RRD = O

I can find no correlation between these.

Hoover dam, why can't I figure this out?!? With all the time I have involved, if I win, I must insist you bump up the prize to a gold eagle! Kidding of course Moe! Just ribbing you. I'll wait for another hint before I set my brain on fire again.
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I must've misread some of the clues you gave us, I'll go back and read them, see if it makes more sense.
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is the grouping of uncoded letters that equals one coded letter use anything as separation markers or is it just random and the letters you used in the code only serve the purpose of figuring out the coded letter and you have to guess at the separation? LOL I just re read what I asked I hope you follow that..

I too will wait at least till my question is answered if that's possible and Jay You should see my notepad and such. Looks like a dictionary threw up on a piece of paper LOL
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01/17/2016 5:36 pm
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If both qd and tz can be decoded as the letter "m", then I'm thinking we need to translate the code letters into numbers and then do some math.

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That's what I have been working on but none of my equations or algorithms per say are working the all prove themselves false
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