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I maybe way out in left field but would this be right grouping. 1×12 2×9 3×5 4×6 All total 32 and 69.
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Sequential grouping of vowels and consonants could work if they also indicated spaces as well as letters. In that case the code word "rsu" would actually be a one letter word in the final message not a two letter word.
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Do we have to name the coding/encryption mechanism or is it enough that we simply explain how it works?
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I just can't stop looking at this!
1). Does any grouping of coded letters = a punctuation mark (, or ' or " ect)?
2). Does any reoccurring code group always correspond to the same decoded letter (let's say FG always = B)?
2A). If yes to 2), does order of letters in the code group matter ( let's say given that FG = B, GF always = B also, or AGE = S so GAE = S)?
Edited by jay4202472000 01/17/2016 10:28 am
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Ok, LOTS of questions! Let me try to address them. Quote: B EA TZ U LF E MB A MPP A T EAEIOE FQ I XZ AA RS U T EAUIO NJ EU J A K EO MS A VX A R EO KL O V AI W OE TS I ? Is NOT the correct sequencing. The first word: B EA TZ U is correct.
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Quote: Does each sequential grouping of vowels or consonants in the coded message boil down to a single letter in the uncoded message?
There seems to some confusion over this topic. As you can tell from my encoding of the first word, sometimes the encoded letter is represented by a SINGLE letter. Sometimes it's up to four letters.
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Quote:I bet Moe is having a good laugh at us  Nope! I'm trying to help you all!
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Quote: Is al the single non grouped letters the same encoded as decoded? Including the latest grouping techniche we just learnt of. The coded message uses the same encoding mechanism throughout the encoded message. (I think this answers your question?)
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Quote: Quote: Quote: ...the last two letters of the first line belong to the first part of the second line's first letter, (splitting the fourth word). ......... The fourth word in the phrase is encoded RSU and the fifth word is encoded TEAUIONJ. Quote: Moe - is this correct? The last 2 letters of the first line are TE and the first letter of the second line is A. However, this is in what you indicate as the fifth word, not the fourth?
You are correct Susuman. The split encoded word is actually the FIFTH word. (My mistake). So I'll give some more hints!  Hint# 11: The clue of the 4th word being RS U and the 5th word being TEAU ION J is correct. 
Edited by Moe145 01/17/2016 11:19 am
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Quote: Is the event New Years? What event? 
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Quote: I maybe way out in left field but would this be right grouping. 1×12 2×9 3×5 4×6 All total 32 and 69. This is NOT the sequencing of the code.
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Quote: Sequential grouping of vowels and consonants could work if they also indicated spaces as well as letters. In that case the code word "rsu" would actually be a one letter word in the final message not a two letter word. As I've mentioned, the encoding RS U translates to a 2 letter word.
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Quote: Do we have to name the coding/encryption mechanism or is it enough that we simply explain how it works? Either way is fine with me. I think you'll find if you know how to decode this message, you'll also know the encoding mechanism's name/method. 
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Quote: I just can't stop looking at this!
1). Does any grouping of coded letters = a punctuation mark (, or ' or " etc.)?
2). Does any reoccurring code group always correspond to the same decoded letter (let's say FG always = B)?
2A). If yes to 2), does order of letters in the code group matter ( let's say given that FG = B, GF always = B also, or AGE = S so GAE = S)? There's no punctuation in the code. 100 percent disclosure: There actually is a contraction in the message. The apostrophe is not included in the encoded message. Ok, this is going to be a little confusing: Given your example "if FG equals B", then yes, GF would also equal B. BUT, in your example, "if AGE equals S", GAE would NOT equal S, but could decode to a completely different letter. Sorry, but that's how the coding is devised. 
Edited by Moe145 01/17/2016 11:17 am
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Does the encoding mechanism require a matrix, similar to a Playfair cipher?
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