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2015 P Lincoln Shield Cent - What In The World?

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 Posted 01/25/2016  7:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add d_dob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
OK, I swear, I did a little research before I posted this fellow.
What in the world could cause all that's going on with this coin?

The obverse looks like someone dry walled the background and Lincoln's head.

The reverse has a similar spackling like effect on the upper left, and
what looks like die scratches on the upper right. (Sorry, I couldn't get a good picture of the scratches. I'll try again tomorrow.)

I know the 2015's have more than their share of issues, but, what would be the cause of this? Late die stage? Over polished die?



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 Posted 01/25/2016  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Being a painting contractor for 20 years, that's one bad texture job, Otherwise, I honestly leaning on PMD, with a touch of
enviro damage. Still, it's interesting.
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 Posted 01/25/2016  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like die scratches from polishing away clash marks on the dies. Yours probably one of the first minted after polishing hence they are much stronger
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 Posted 01/25/2016  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add d_dob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Kman. Fioti I hear you about the bad paint job!
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 Posted 01/25/2016  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are pretty cool examples of much older coins but just so you can see how crazy they can get!!
http://www.vamworld.com/1921-P+VAM-1M
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 Posted 01/25/2016  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add d_dob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, very cool! Thanks for sharing those.

Yeah, the die scratches are very pronounced on that upper right
hand side of the reverse. After examining all of the other gouges,
when I saw those, I thought, hmm, I'll bet those are die scratches!
I looked up some examples and thought, well, it sure looks like those!
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 Posted 01/25/2016  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No problem, I like showing everyone Morgan's cause same things happened on them but on a much larger canvas.
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To me it looks like something sticky got on the coin and got smeared around creating the lines... Did you try soaking it in some acetone?
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I see sjlundcoin beat me to my question. Does it wash off? May want to wash your hands good if it is what I'm thinking. A bloody finger print can make many shapes when smeared. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 01/25/2016  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MS70Error5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was Colonel Mustard, in the Observatory, with the 2015 LSC. It does look like it could be a fingerprint.
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Not die polish lines. Die polish lined are straight.
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Die scratches are not always straight actually but I'm not going to sit and argue.
He has the coin in hand so either way there is no added value if they are scratches or glue so dip away lol

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 Posted 01/26/2016  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can dip away at any coin with acetone. It doesn't damage the coin.

I'm 96% sure this is just PMD, nothing more. Search a box of cents and you'll see some pretty whacky stuff.

Kman- die polish lines are not always perfectly straight, but they're a lot straighter than this.
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I don't have any acetone, but, I did a quick distilled water rinse.
The lines are definitely embedded into the coin. Again, I'll try to get
pics of what I think look like die scratches.
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*Rolls Eyes* these are the posts that upset me. No the O.P. but the answers. I almost think a mod should remove the wrong ones but then I guess we have to learn from others mistakes. Numisma is right I'll bet you your collection ;)
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Environmental damage, staining like that can form from handling with excessively sweaty fingers.
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