RCM's 2016 Face Value Collector Case For 20-Pcs $20 For $20 + $25 For $25.

Ok, let's leave this part of conversation.
My point that we live in the world of false-advertisement.
And I am flexible with this, less headache...

anyway
We do not collect boxes as boxes, we just like to organize and display in them our real collectibles.
As per value of these coins - in reality, with or without box the buyer will be interested to pay face value, or even less for the bulk purchase.

I was told in a mass advanced notice email by my rep that the so called mintage of these boxes was set at 7,000. After reading on the mint website that they were making them according to demand, I contacted my rep to inquire and was told that 3000 more boxes were being made. It's possible this additional 3000 boxes were made in order to accommodate people sending their boxes back when they discovered coins were falling out and coas don't fit. It's also possible that they are not making boxes to demand and there is only 10,000. Even if that is the case, the additional 3000 should have at least been made only after 3000 were returned by dissatisfied customers. I didn't follow up with my rep since I didn't want to bother with it over a $30 box. In any case, I got an email from my rep earlier today saying many people have been complaining about the slots for coins being too big as well as the coas not fitting, and that if I wanted to send my back, I could and I would receive a slightly revised box some time this summer. I forgot to reply to him but will likely just hang on to it. Perhaps if everyone sends their box back for the second edition, the original box may wind up with a "mintage"'of 7000

Some dealers received these boxes for free. The more people who keep the coins vs return them to the bank the better. Limiting the amount of boxes is not in the best interest of the RCM, but they didn't want to introduce the product that way because nobody would rush to buy.

So as it stands, I have verified that these coins can be deposited at the bank. The bank manager said that they have not seen or even heard of these coins, but after making a few phone calls, agreed to honour the legal tender status. I assume there is not a mad dash to cash these in, at least in my area since no one at the bank even had an idea they even exist.

But you where the one of the collectors, that did want the box and hence the 20for20 series...... why do you interested to sell?

My advise here:
if you have decided to sell - deposit them right away to the bank and return the box. Way less hassle.
Do not spend the efforts and time even to create a sale add (I really put an efforts, cause for me, it like some ritual to say "good bye" to the coin)

**Time ago I deposited some XforX duplicates, while only 10 first 20foe20 will keep, and week ago deposited my 200for200 due to possible Mint "policy change"....When the bank knows what to do, it only 5 minutes procedure.

Just my thoughts, regardless of what occurs regarding future redemption of XforX's, the same process we go through each time we buy and then sell anything, it's good to spend a little time reflecting on it. (One of the funniest examples I can think of - is now many, many years later, my now 35 year old son regrets that I sold his entire matchbox car accumulation in a garage sale after he got too old to play with it!)

I realize not everyone's the same but pertaining to XforX, if it were me I'd be asking myself this question -

Did I buy it for the right reasons and if so what were they?
To my definition, "right reasons" include having something that in 5, 10, 15 or even 50 years down the road would still be meaningful and valuable, in terms of representing some degree of pleasure and satisfaction, even in terms of good memories. (A good reason is not simply because it might increase in value in the future, there's no way to predict that and it puts you at risk of becoming a hoarder! lol!)

Wrong reasons would include having bought something only because it was popular at the time, impulse buying, misleading advertising, or buying something that was supposed to serve some purpose that proved otherwise.

If it were me, in the case of XforX, if I accumulated a real significant amount for either of these reasons, I would definitely dump it:
- a mistaken belief I was buying $20 worth of silver. Each coin contains appx $5 worth at today's spot price and even milk-spotted maple leaf silver coins would be a far better option if one chooses to speculation on future bullion value.
- that forever more they are "cashable" at face. Given our entire Cdn constitution is modelled after the UK, considering Canada are a British Commonweath country, noting the informal redemption arrangement through banks has never been formalized (there's obviously a reason why not), plus the fact that even RCM continues to stress that XforX is non-circulating collector coin, it is my opinion that the writing is on the wall.

But if I had faithfully accumulated one at a time, maybe some being gifts, achieving the set was an enjoyable pursuit, my financial situation was in good shape and I wasn't living from one paycheque to the next, if it were me I'd keep the set because I'd likely regret selling it later. It's not always about what things are worth in terms of money.....

Clearly we are rapidly moving towards a cashless society. I was a bank teller in the 70s when ABMs were first introduced. We had lineups out the door and down the street on payday Friday's before a longweekend. Meanwhile the branch had been recently outfitted with two shiny new ABMs, which sat in an empty vestibule. Customers adamely refused to use them and eventually tellers were located in the vestibule to reassure customers that those metal monsters were trustworthy. Because during that era there was a deep mistrust of both plastic cards and machines that gave out cash. Eventually, to give customers an incentive, service charges for bank withdrawals were cheaper than withdrawing cash at a teller.

Next came the transition of using that plastic card to buy stuff, using no cash. Same thing, many people then balked at that, suspicion they get ripped off, or a conspiracy theory "somebody" could keep tabs on their spending. Again as an incentive, the service charge for electronic entries became lower than for cheques.

Now both cheques and cash transactions have been largely taken over by plastic and even online buying has taken hold, just type in your number on that plastic card and stay home. As I recall reading, Amazon sales now outperform Walmart.

I'm by no means suggesting coin collecting is to immediately go the way of the postage stamp. But I think it's unlikely additional coin will ever be added. It will be very interesting to see what happens in the future as far as numismatics in general - the discontinued circulation of the penny certainly appears to have increased interest in collecting of it.