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How To Tell The Difference Between Canadian Specimen Strikes And Proof-Like Strikes?

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Maybe you should look at a few of my past photos. Your wrong buddy.
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I guess you can't read what that Charlton book says. I'm not going to argue with the ignorant.
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 Posted 08/07/2018  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickle nubber to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi , I believe that the 48 SP set has only the .50 cent either convex or concave , not the whole set. Just my .50 worth
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pauliswilling, don't be so aggressive with members who are just here to help..'buddy'.

you know nothing of your terminology. there is a difference between a pl and specimen strike so don't call DBM and others ignorant, when you are the one asking for opinions and then denying it and providing false info.

and not only are your coins not specimen or prooflike, but they are also not original as can be, your dollar shows clear signs of handling and could even get a grade of detail for what looks like cleaning.

don't come asking for help from the one sacrificing their time to provide knowledge, if all you're going to do is call them names and deny whatever they say.

and if you have over $100,000 put away into coins, I honestly hope for your sake they weren't all sold to you as pl and specimens..cause you'll be in for some financial pain.


and I don't claim to be an expert on anything..but I know that I know my stuff when it comes to specimens, I've picked out many unattributed specimens and have studied them as my main area of collecting for a fair bit of time now. my profile picture is what an actual specimen looks like..

but whatever, keep living in your dream world with all those beautiful specimen 1948s..
Feel free to call me Will.
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Maybe you should look at a few of my past photos. Your wrong buddy.


I did exactly that - the only Canadian Specimen coins you posted was a lower grade 1937 dollar.
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I have over 100,000 in Coins put away. Didn't start doing this yesterday.


This is irrelevant. It is not what you spend, it is how many coins you see, and studying the strikes prior to 1967 to recognise the difference between business strikes, PL strikes and SP strikes.

If you are going to convince me - then I need far better photos than what you have provided.
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I guess you can't read what that Charlton book says. I'm not going to argue with the ignorant.


Flip to the front of your book - anything after the 67th edition, you'll see my name in there. That book is a merely a guide, and it is rife with errors. The knowledge of George VI specimen strikes comes with handling and studying the coins.

Lastly, argue the topic, not the person. Call anyone ignorant again, and you'll earn a vacation from CCF.

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 Posted 08/08/2018  06:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pauliswilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I called him ignorant only because I posted the Charlton book which shows there is a Specimen Proof for 1948's which he denies. I obviously can't take great pictures when I have to crop the images off a smart phone. Don't get your panties in a wringer! I just submitted the set today and I guess we will find out in about a month and a week. Had you looked at some of my past photos you would have seen this isn't my first go around with Canadian Coins. One person's reply was correct that the specimen convex and concave pertains to the .50 cent piece. If you want to ban me because someone isn't knowledgeable on Canadian Coins and I called him ignorant for it....go for it.
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 Posted 08/08/2018  06:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pauliswilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nickel nubber had the most accurate response.
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And to you dollarman. Most of my 100 K definitely is NOT in Canadian Coins. It's mostly in Rarer Gold. U.S. Gold.
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I posted the 1948 set because I just picked it up a day ago. I generally put all of my money in Coins like this.
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Dollarman.. I never said that the whole set was specimen Proof. Obviously when you have to crop a picture from what is about 4 times the size of the normal photos down to 300 it's not easy. The 50 cent piece which nickel nubber reffered to could be a Specimen proof and he was the one who caught the characteristics according to the Charlton book.However the 1948 dollar in this set Does have a P/L look to it and the Coin is as original as original can be. I told the one guy he was ignorant only because he said the 48 doesn't have a Specimen Proof and he said that after I sent a picture of the Charlton book showing it does.
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Spp Ottawa I am looking at the 2014 68th edition Standard Catalog of Canadian Coins Volume one W.K. Cross
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SPP Ottawa If you can tell me how to shrink my photo down to the settings you only accept on here and take a good photo I would be happy to. However I just submitted the whole set to NGC. I guess we will all have an answer in about a month and a week or so
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Even the grading companies don't know everything. For example.. this rare 1873 closed 3 $20 dollar double eagle was graded AU 58. It's as New as New can be except bag Mark's which are normal for the coin. I can tell you if I was a place like heritage this Coin would be graded Ms. Had my dealer friend who has been collecting 40 plus years and had a shop for over 10 agree that it should have been graded new. Unfortunately, grading companies don't want to give you the grades when the Coin jumps up from 2500 in AU 58 to 4000 in 60 and higher up to possibly 6,000 in a 61.
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