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Full Roll Of 50 - 1858 Large Cents

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Roger, 12 is really good going. And in high grade the 1884 Obv. 1 is definitely scarcer than a vanilla 1858. Of course, some 1858 dies are very scarce, as are those of us who collect 1858s by die.
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Of course, some 1858 dies are very scarce, as are those of us who collect 1858s by die.


gidjit...I'm hoping that you do find one of these 58's with the huge d/c across the reverse....Any luck..?



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Gidjit, you seem to be someone who is up for challenges. Here's one for you: amass a roll of 1884 Obv. 1 cents

well I have a few right now,just sold a couple and have 1 for sale on ebay right now but I will take you up on your challenge!

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gidjit...I'm hoping that you do find one of these 58's with the huge d/c across the reverse....Any luck..?

i just checked and no I dont have one, but if I can have yours I will have 1!!
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I warn you, Gidjit, the challenges will get progressively harder. After the 1884s, it will be five (I do have a heart) 1881H SSNs.
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well I have a few right now,just sold a couple and have 1 for sale on ebay right


Well...you'll never get a roll of 84's that way...


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i just checked and no I dont have one, but if I can have yours I will have 1!!


...and maybe Rob has a good line on getting you a large die crack 58, because he does have photos of another nice one in one of his great books on the 58's..
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gidjit
That is very cool ...thanks for posting. it is posts like
this that give me ideas for my collection.

As some others posted, it is ...crazy... to think so many
1858 could be put together. Here, in Florida, I am sure
I have only seen 1 or 2 in the past 5 years.

You did mention coin tubes. I put my Canadian large cents
into U.S. small dollar tubes. (For Susan B Anthony and SAC
dollars) The tubes do come in two sizes, 20 and 25 coin tubes. I use the 25 coin dollar tubes, and can put 32 Canadian
large cents.

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I never tried, but I am thinking the 20 coin small dollar
tubes might hold around 25 Canadian cents.
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I warn you, Gidjit, the challenges will get progressively harder. After the 1884s, it will be five (I do have a heart) 1881H SSNs.
only 5? lol I havent seen 1 yet lol and I have been looking, thats one hole in my binder that bugs me seeing it empty
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After the 1884s, it will be five (I do have a heart) 1881H SSNs.


That is cruel... I have only ever found two, and I think Bill has only ever found two as well...
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I never found any and still don't have one, so that makes me think up these awful things. The 1881H SSN is surely a case where the mintage must have been miniscule!!
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The die probably failed shortly after it was installed...
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What diversion... but what a great idea!

I like this sort of thinking to make collecting a bit more fun! A few "Challenges"
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I can't comment on the challenges as it's above my knowledge base. But I will say you took the collector's creed to heart didn't you, get the key dates first and I know if one is good fifty is better. Don't start another 58 roll or there will be none left Great looking coins, good work gidjit.
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OK, I'll stop diverting and get back on track. The first part of the coinage of the Provincial cents ended in early January, 1859. The January portion probably included the output of a few remaining 1858 dies and a portion of the overdate dies. In early March the initial shipment of cents to Canada took place, consisting of 77 boxes with 20,000 coins each. The boxes likely contained rolls of 50 coins each. Such a roll would be five inches long, plus the folded paper on the ends.
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The boxes likely contained rolls of 50 coins each. Such a roll would be five inches long, plus the folded paper on the ends.


If the roll was 5 inches long, then each roll would contain approximately 100 coins (given the average thickness of 1858-1859 coins were 0.048 inches)
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Yes, quite right -- 100 coins. By the way, that means that Gidjit's roll is NOT complete, being only 50. It's all your fault, Roger, and he'll probably never forgive you!

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