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Possible 1831 Capped Bust Half In Collar, First Strike Mirror Brockage.

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Interestednovice here's a good read for you......https://goccf.com/t/180209
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The size comparison against the Kennedy half dollar ... and the weight ... tells us this is an 1831 Capped Bust half dollar. Nominal weight when issued was 13.48 grams.

This could indeed be a very unusual ... and likely valuable ... error.

Your photo skills have improved with the comparison shot ... now try another with the coin alone and do your best to crop the image.

I'm hopeful for you that your Grandfather has indeed passed along something of true numismatic worth.

BTW ... to the CCF.

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I agree, get it graded by NGC or ANACS and find out what it is and have an 'official' notice of its grade. It is a gamble, but even if it is a fake, it may still have value....
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with the above.

This is something that could be very interesting.

Make sure to not sell it until you know more, and don't clean it.
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Very interesting...This is the first one of these I have ever seen. Thanks for sharing.
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Definitely submit it to NGC, they will be able to tell its authenticity, and if it is ruled authentic by them, the price of it will dramatically increase. DO NOT clean it in any way, otherwise you will negatively affect the value.
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 Posted 04/10/2016  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Interestednovice to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just wanted to post some better cropped photos of the coin. I read a the post of a similar situation, the coin was much smaller but in much better condition. It sold for around 7K at auction. I'm thinking of sending it in for grading but not sure it would be worth the money.

Possible-1831-Capped-Bust-Half-In-Collar,-First-Strike-Mirror-Brockage.

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Here is one I copied off the book.



Possible-1831-Capped-Bust-Half-In-Collar,-First-Strike-Mirror-Brockage.
This one is a Quarter Error.

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Given the relatively primitive production methods of the first federal mint in Philadelphia, it is surprising that so few examples of production errors are to be found. Clearly, quality was closely supervised, and discoveries of double-struck, off-center, brockage or other assorted production errors are few and far between.

By Rory R. Rea.
If this was mine, I would contact: Sheridan coins- He has a website with contact information and links to other Capp bust sites.
and to CCF
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Well, I stand corrected. I didn't realize that a brockage could produce such a good mirror image; I thought that it would be squished.

I just read an earlier CCF thread from 2014 about a 1908 Barber dime brockage, that was ultimately proven genuine, and netted the owner $7K.

So definitely it should be verified.
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i would call PCGS and send that certified and insured. Good luck!
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You mean registered and insured or just insured. I'm not sure you can insure certified mail. Certified mail is just a post office rip off. Costly but with no special handling or tracking.
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That is WOW! If you can confirm that's authentic. Send it in like all suggested, insure it for $5K at least.
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Look at the pics. Why would it be fake? Why bother with TPG? Plenty of big time well known dealers who can assist with this and likely make a fair offer.
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perhaps a good step is to get someone who knows how to attribute CBHs to make sure both sides are from the same die?
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