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1882 $3 Gold Omega Counterfeit

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PCGS deemed this coin counterfeit. I just got it back and even with a loop I think I can make out the omega symbol in the R in Liberty. It's a pretty darn good looking fake though.

I bought it at auction and thankfully the owner said I could return the coin for a full refund.

The Coin World is a pretty crazy place...

1882-$3-Gold----Omega-Counterfeit

1882-$3-Gold----Omega-Counterfeit

1882-$3-Gold----Omega-Counterfeit
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That's a cool thing to have!
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I remember reading about the Omega Twenties but didn't know there were other counterfeit gold coins targeted.


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Beautiful coin, Superb eye appeal. Love the coin!
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MV, yah apparently Omega is known for that $20 piece and the 1882 $3.
That probably would have been good information for me to know before I bought two of them raw..
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You might want to see what the omega coin is worth to a collector of counterfeits, may be worth your while to find out, I know the $20.00 Saints are worth a lot today to certain dealers and collectors as collectibles in their own right.
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Dale!

Glad you are getting a refund from the seller. It sure would have fooled me!
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That's a darn good fake! Reckon they could of missed the call on this one? I doubt the Chinese could even attempt a fake of this high caliber.
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They didn't miss the call. This counterfeit has been known since at least the early 70's.
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If you look into the history of the Omega counterfeits, they did miss them - at first.

If you are an ANA member, the back issue for September 2007 has an article on two "Omega" Counterfeits.

NGC's piece on the $3 is here: https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/articl...hree-dollar/

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An awfully good fake, might there be any clues or evidence as to the counterfeiter?
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I sweat it out every time I submit a gold coin to NGC. This is some scary stuff, especially counterfeit gold in fake NGC slabs!

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AFAIK Omega Man has never been identified.
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Beautiful coin, Superb eye appeal. Love the coin!


You shouldn't love it; it's a fake and a dangerous one at that.

The last I heard of an Omaga 1907 High Relief $20 gold was at the Baltimore coin show. A dealer said he had one, and wanted $4,000 for it.

It's worth the melt value so far as I'm concerned. Don't feed the counterfeit trolls.
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