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Star Trek - RCM - 2016

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 Posted 05/08/2016  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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At this rate , the fakes will be "released" /available before the real thing lol, I guess I will just wait for a $10 fake/replica/copy which ever.


There is nice Official Star Trek Insignia Collection minted by Franklin Mint. I think they .925 Silver. Many of them listed on ebay.

It bad in general, all the fake stuff, but same as Superman and similar, the "fake-makers" should give the RCM the lesson not to mint this "b-side" stuff and call it a coin.
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 Posted 05/08/2016  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well they have a photo to work with. I think the problem is those who unknowingly gat scammed by fakes don't already own the original so they have nothing to compare it with.
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 Posted 05/08/2016  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nubee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
" "b-side" stuff and call it a coin"

Not sure what you're meaning?
Does it relate to the murano coins, pysanka or other international coins with new concepts and flair (floating coin).

"Coin' collecting needs to evolve from the circular silver or gold coin to maintain collector interest or the hobby stagnates.
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 Posted 05/08/2016  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCanuck94 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think the gold Star Trek coin will be susceptible to counterfeiting anytime soon. The scammers don't have the right tools and technology to make their fake coins in the shape of the Delta logo. Even if they managed to do so, it would be easy to differentiate them from the real coins because they would be missing the box, sleeve, and COA, as is the case with other fake RCM NCLT gold coins (i.e. 2013 Superman Gold) on the market.

Any buyer who purchases a gold coin without its original packaging buys at their own risk. I wouldn't spend $1300 to buy a gold Star Trek coin if it didn't come with its original packaging.
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05/08/2016 10:51 pm
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 Posted 05/08/2016  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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" "b-side" stuff and call it a coin"

Not sure what you're meaning?
Does it relate to the murano coins, pysanka or other international coins with new concepts and flair (floating coin).


I feel here, that partially I am correct, and partially not. but here my point of view:

Murano Glass, Pysanka and other innovative items are still involve effort of RCM to design the coin (basically all the coins distinguished by design), so even that some of us do not like them - they still small pieces of art.

Unlike above, the licences coins created by "copy-paste" of design elements. Make some mix of familiar heroes, objects and symbols, don't forget the trademark and the coin is ready. This is something, that was created by someone else and exactly copied (even printed) on the coin.

Btw, all the masks and Haida art - not the same, cause to engrave it on the coin - this is not copy.


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or other international coins with new concepts and flair (floating coin).


Sorry to say - there is no floating coin.
This is the base metal (?) coin, that probably not bad by itself, it keeps in the air by the magic in the base under the coin. Probably really worth USD 30.

And of cause, people may collect any coins they want.
Just some items will be considered as valuable by many collectors, and some of them - not.
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05/08/2016 11:31 pm
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 Posted 05/08/2016  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nubee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good answer and I thank you
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 Posted 05/08/2016  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clvlys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I initially found the odd shape of the gold star trek coin off putting. But then after some reflection, it seems quite appropriate. I am by no means a 'trekkie' so there are likely others on this group who could speak more boldly on the subject of star trek 'money'. I did a google search and from what I read, in the star trek world, currency money no longer serves a purpose. With some exceptions, it seems that (1) personal accomplishment counts far more - emblem of a star fleet commander perhaps; and (2) that where some monetary exchange is referred to it is in the form of gold. I know it is a bit of a stretch but the latter points seem to rationalize the coin shape (and what it stands for) and use of gold. In sum, the RCM 'coin' appears quite logical. :-)

Cheers.

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 Posted 05/09/2016  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of the Star Trek coins are now accessible online to the Platinum MC tier ($2000). But the gold Star Trek did not make to the lower tiers. It shows as "awaiting stock" right away. It looks like a lot of people are out of luck.
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 Posted 05/09/2016  01:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What does "awaiting stock" indicate anyway? It's not as if only a portion of the mintage was ready for ordering/shipping and RCM is now awaiting completion of minting the next batch before they take any more orders. Even those who have ordered are awaiting stock until September.

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 Posted 05/09/2016  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justsilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From past experiences,

RCM's awaiting stock indicating there might be extra coins available. ( still hope )

RCM's soldout indicating no more coin available ( hopeless )

lol.
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 Posted 05/09/2016  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Looney4Numi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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From past experiences, RCM's awaiting stock indicating there might be extra coins available. ( still hope )

RCM's soldout indicating no more coin available ( hopeless )

That's about it...lol.

Anyone trying to figure out details of availability will only give themselves a headache.

It's either available or it isn't.

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 Posted 05/09/2016  04:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interestingly, the advance notice for Platinum MC members don't even include the gold. Unless there are cancellations this coin is not coming back.

I know the 2015 Gold Superman and the Gold Looney Tunes both were awaiting stock and came back into stock but there was less demand for those coins.

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 Posted 05/09/2016  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New1954 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@silveroid

I hear you when you are talking about the engraving on coins especially with the "Mask" series of coins; however, these have not sold very well.

I bought the three coin series of masks for full price from RCM. Bromberg on the shopping channel sold this complete set for 75 dollars less. So disappointed.

The Matriarch moon masks also did not do very well. I bought these as well and what happens? They are sold at discounted prices once again on the show.

So, I believe having an intricately etched coin does not necessarily spell success.

The world is changing all around us. This hobby is to attract newcomers and maybe the gold star trek emblem will be worth its weight in gold. Let us not forget that maybe the day will come where we live in a cashless society.

Also, on the website, I still see the Gold as awaiting stock..
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05/09/2016 07:07 am
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 Posted 05/09/2016  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with your point, New1954

Masks coins have very narrow target group, that's why 3000 units were too many (no speaking about 6000).

And ofcause Star Trek themed or innovative coins will have mass appeal, but it doesn't say, that these coins better than traditional "non popular" ones.

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 Posted 05/09/2016  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New1954 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@silveroid

The mintage for the moon masks is 3,000.

Will be interesting to see how many they actually issued because on the RCM website, this series has been archived.
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05/09/2016 07:41 am
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