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Can The Chain Cent Be George Washington ?

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Maybe it's Martha...
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There does appear to be solid evidence of it being Twisted Sister as someone suggested. Spot on.
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 Posted 05/08/2016  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the picture. OP emailed me the pic so I could upload it. It's on imageshack so if not everyone can see it, I will upload it here instead.

OP's own words:
"Ok so here it is ! George Washington side by side with his long lost twin --- if u got your head in the sand then you can continue waiting to figure this out. Note the Ear lobe , upper combed hair ,the eye the mouth and expression most important. My question remains as when was the painting done and from what?"

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 Posted 05/08/2016  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 732amran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When was the painting done? And from what and I noticed one more giveaway -- notice the shortened side burn is exactly in length with the coin portrait if u look closely u will see it. If this is true---- then Re- writing the history books may just be a matter of fact. All I can say is Wow
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 Posted 05/08/2016  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a contemporary portrait, a profile, of George ....

George Washington, attributed to Ellen Sharples, after James Sharples Senior, c. 1796-1810

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IMHO, George is not near a match, lacking Lady Liberty's delicate features. His locks weren't long enough. If indeed, as our OP claims, it is his profile on the Chain Cent, would he not have loudly protested?

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 Posted 05/08/2016  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 732amran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exguy-- it was common to have a wig -- and he looks like in his 50s fuller face - coin was engraved with only one example * Did George sit for a portrait ? Likely as it was common practice. And it seems he had a number of different styles ---hmmm. But the Chain Cent is without him with a wig*. And
If George Washington did indeed not want his image on the coin -- we can safely say -- it was after the fact that he did know about the coinage----until Sheldon 4 arrived and he had enuff of how ugly the artist was creating them-ect. This is my theory
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Boy, I think you really have to stretch things to see any resemblance at all, although they do both have at least one eye, ear a nose and mouth. The authorization for the coin called for a device emblematic of Liberty, and I think that is what it is.
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 Posted 05/08/2016  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a little blurb on Pareidolia from wikipedia.


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Pareidolia (/pær#7547;#712;do#650;li#601;/ parr-i-doh-lee-#601;) is a psychological phenomenon involving a stimulus (an image or a sound) wherein the mind perceives a familiar pattern of something where none actually exists.

Common examples are perceived images of animals, faces, or objects in cloud formations, the "man in the moon", the "moon rabbit", and hidden messages within recorded music played in reverse or at higher- or lower-than-normal speeds.


If you look at exoguy's picture you can see the "dude bump" on Washington's forehead and a hooked nose.

I know ear lobes come in two varieties and yes Liberty and Washington do share those lobes but that is about it.

I also know Washington made his ideas about coins well known. They had a coin on Pawn Stars, a trial piece, and that fact came up.

Also look at this.

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There is just enough resemblance that your mind can play tricks on you, like lcutler said


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Boy, I think you really have to stretch things to see any resemblance at all, although they do both have at least one eye, ear a nose and mouth.
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Ok ok ok -- now----- then as my head works very correctly I seem to have the ability to see things. Example a Bee a fly a bird that passed by a goat a sheep on its feet that does not squeak. Ummm hmmmm let's see Sheldon 1 and 2 obverses are exactly the same but Sheldon 3 and 4 are totally different.
SO ! Guys focus only on my picture I finally put up with 2 images* yes I agree there are many paintings and portraits of the very first president--- but only one simple one of the bust of Washington was used as a model to etch the image on to a die mold. But this die mold was taken from a painting or solid form of the president.
Guys ! I'm a photographer and I did photo work this to get the two images to see side by side what I'm talking about. Any other image or most of Washington are Not the image that was used for the chain cent*. I'm very convinced that I do have the answere as the Man that is to present Liberty has had to be respectfully Goerge Washington.
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It must be george
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You modified a 3/4 portrait to look like a 1/2 portrait. That would not be admissible as proper evidence in the court of law.
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Not sure on this one but I think we can all agree that the Capped Bust Half did NOT borrow any features from President Washington.
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Nose is completely wrong.
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Typecoin ---- Aha ! But ---- I did carve off part of face to reveal what I've been pointing out. And Conder--- The nose could be a bit off on a painting and that's a bit but still looks very the same if u look very closely --- Zoom in go check. And the first Half Cent is I agree- very Not like a Washington portrait at all.
Remember that the Mint Was in the testing but running stages*. I wonder if there were blue print scetches off other designs that never made it. ---
With all that said ,it would be a wonderful piece of new information if indeed the Chain cent is indeed the first President.
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I have a surprise----
Another picture but this time its at about 1785 and its even better ! I had this question as it seemed to me the portrait is of a older man* and I got the picture that is as identical as the coin its self. Picture I'll load ether myself soon or via the forum. O this is exciting--- heck if I'm correct it would be a Revelation !!
STAY TUNED !
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