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Ebay Deceptive Listings...report...seller Midwest_fun

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 Posted 04/29/2016  11:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coinsrawesome22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Seller midwest_fun seems to be causing a lot of trouble on ebay. Please help end his scam of selling "details" coins as high MS.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/midwest_fun...trksid=p3692

Over 60 mis-represented listings right now. Very sad :/ Was selling original bank wrapped rolls of coins and jars as well. Has three or four ebay accounts, all Lawrence, Kansas.

For instance, his 1811 $5 UNC http://www.ebay.com/itm/1811-Classi...AOSwkEVXGvF7

is right here where he bought it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1811-Capped...047675.l2557

High bidder is his shill christian785 with 45% bidding on midwest_fun.
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 Posted 04/30/2016  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If he bought it for 4500 and it sold for 4400 .... not sure that was a good scam on his part ;)

Bobby should see this shortly.
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 Posted 04/30/2016  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrawesome22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually bought it for 3750 since it was a best offer. Same seller did the jars and rolls. Except this time there is more deception and shilling.
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 Posted 04/30/2016  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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High bidder is his shill christian785 with 45% bidding on midwest_fun.


Shilling is almost impossible to prove even for ebay. Accuse me of shilling publicly because someone has a 45% bid rate with me and you might be signing for your mail. You have no idea.
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 Posted 04/30/2016  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller is unethical in their selling practice by knowingly cracking out a AU details coin and listing it as uncirculated, but is this seller doing anything illegal? Is the seller following all of ebay listing rules?
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 Posted 04/30/2016  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrawesome22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. Shilling
2. The guy had listings for jars and rolls previously where he said they came originally bank wrapped from Reno. Impossible.
3. If you look at the shiller account's feedback, he bids on other auctions and doesn't pay.
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 Posted 04/30/2016  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
High bidder is 18% with zero retractions, and how do you know the ID of the high bidder?

Absolutely nothing you say even remotely proves shill bidding.
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 Posted 04/30/2016  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrawesome22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
c***i(2459) is the shill. Was the high bidder when I posted.
And I know because c***I, christian785 also has a reputation for the same thing from a few years ago. If you look at his feedback, many of the other 55% of his bids he does not pay for.

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And I know because c***I, christian785 also has a reputation for the same thing from a few years ago.


I say again, how do you know? If you KNOW this, you must know more than you're telling.

Cracking out and selling raw is not against the rules. The rest is wild accusation.

Prove to me christian785 is c***I.

Prove to me c***I doesn't pay for half his wins.

Prove to me c***I is a shill bidder.
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sell to christian785 and buy from midwest_fun. Then one will know for sure. One also knows for sure when they see that all of the same "details" coins christian785 wins get cracked and sold by midwest_fun.

I'm not the bad guy here. I'm right and I was just trying to spread awareness. Whatever.
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Then one will know for sure.

Your words. Not mine.


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One also knows for sure when they see that all of the same "details" coins christian785 wins get cracked and sold by midwest_fun.


Show me where that happened.
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coinsrawesome22 is correct....christian785(2459) bids on coins and does not pay. I know this 1st hand as he did this to me:
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI....047675.l2565

he shills and buys coins to crack-out and are than listed for sale under ebay seller midwest_fun(615).....They are one and the same in Lawrence, KS:
christian785(2459)
Christian Lyche
XXXXX Aspen Ln
Lawrence, KS 66049

I have X'd out christian785's street adress number.
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Read christian785's feedback and you will see he buys and does NOT pay:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA....m1561.l2776
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 Posted 04/30/2016  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrawesome22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
g048406 is correct. I think I've made my case. ebay can clearly verify from the info the two of us have provided.
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 Posted 05/02/2016  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is NOT against ebay rules.
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