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CCF Advertiser
United States
1533 Posts |
It is still deceptive and unethical behavior. Why are you defending him?
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New Member
 United States
8 Posts |
It is against the rules to shill (which he does...Arizona Coins and I have experience with his other shilling account). It is also against the rules to not pay for your winnings.
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Forum Dad
 United States
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So report him then, why are you here asking everyone else to report him?
I'm not defending him, this new member signed up just to get other members to report this guy.
There's nothing to report.
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Valued Member
United States
152 Posts |
So.. shills or not, I think we have grounds to report some listings of his. It is against ebay policy to have a numerical grade listed or shown if it is not actually graded. Many of his have a grade in the picture. Report ALL (or his highest priced items if you just want to do a few). Click report, then "prohibited and restricted", then "stamps, currency, coins", then "uncertified coins". If enough of us get a bunch of them removed, he might finally stop some of his bad listings at least. |
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3192 Posts |
Guys, then go ahead and report him as Bobby stated. I appreciate your leg work but if you feel it's unethical or deceptive or against ebay rules then report both of them. It's really just that simple. |
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Valued Member
United States
152 Posts |
I DID report him. The point of posting it here is so others can report as well.
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Forum Dad
United States
24170 Posts |
I'll say it again, cracking out and selling is NOT against ebay rules. |
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Valued Member
United States
152 Posts |
And I will say it again, I reported him for putting a numerical grade on a raw coin, which IS against ebay rules. |
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CCF Advertiser
United States
1533 Posts |
If enough people ask him how the XF40 damaged coin became AU-55, he may abandon the scam. Or not.
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Pillar of the Community
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"I'll say it again, cracking out and selling is NOT against ebay rules." REALLY? I could have sworn ebay frowns on Significantly Not As Described (SNAD) in fact, SNAD is the only reason you can return a coin even if you don't accept returns or if it's after the return policy period. Cracking-out and selling is OK, but LYING about a coins known defects is NOT ie: midwest_fun purchased this 1803 Cent NGC AU details-cleaned: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1803-SM-Dat...141934561713He promptly cracked it out and changed the coin to (MS-62)BU++ Red-Brown: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1803-Draped...262401285309He just ripped-off some novice for over $1,000 If that's not a crime, than I don't know what is. Edited by g048406
05/07/2016 11:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote:REALLY? I could have sworn ebay frowns on Significantly Not As Described (SNAD) in fact, SNAD is the only reason you can return a coin even if you don't accept returns or if it's after the return policy period. Cracking-out and selling is OK, but LYING about a coins known defects is NOT ie: midwest_fun purchased this 1803 Cent NGC AU details-cleaned: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1803-SM-Dat...141934561713He promptly cracked it out and changed the coin to (MS-62)BU++ Red-Brown: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1803-Draped...262401285309He just ripped-off some novice for over $1,000 Unethical?yes Lying?yes Deceitful?yes What it proves is as a buyer we should do our homework as you have done.You have provided absolute proof ebay is full of snake oil salesman.When you start spending that kind of money you better know what your doing.This is a good example of why I've spent less than $10.00 on ebay this year |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3192 Posts |
the old saying goes.. caveat emptor... a fool is always separated from his money.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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$1,625 for a raw coin, does not offer returns, who does business like that? I'd never buy from anyone that sells like that, but I'm afraid its just part of the business. Dealers have always bought coins with problems and sold them without mentioning the problems or buying and selling a grade higher. The only thing new here is that he uses the same public venue for buying and selling so you are able to track exactly what he is doing.
I wouldn't assume that someone that spends $1,625 is a novice, but if they can't see wear on an AU-55 coin, then maybe they should stick to certified coins. This particular windmill was addressed 30 years ago by ANACS and then PCGS, I'm not sure any more needs to be done about it.
Edited by Andrew99
05/08/2016 09:26 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well that coin screams cleaned as soon as you see it.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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