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1943 Steel Wheat Penny DDO?

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 Posted 10/14/2016  10:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add babybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The 3 looks like it could be doubled on the obverse but the N in cent on the reverse looks like it's a MD. Any information is greatly appreciated.

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 Posted 10/14/2016  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephm99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, but it looks like a normal coin to me.
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 Posted 10/14/2016  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brandonflanagan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice steely none the less though my two look terrible but they are what they are none the less got mine from rolls at work popping open for the drawer
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 Posted 10/15/2016  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks normal to me also,seeing no doubling.
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 Posted 10/15/2016  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uruman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
,normal coin
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I agree. If it were a doubled die, the devices would be enlarged. But looking at the overall size they look normal. But be happy with this fact, that the images are great us to make this determination. When I mention the overall size of the devices are normal, what does that mean? The devices should be larger than normal if there was hub doubling. Here is a side by side of what to look for that year:
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Note the difference between the four images. The upper left is a normal size of the devices. On the other three, we see doubled dies. Note how the devices are affected? The first place to look for a DDO on cents is on the 9 in the date. Then move around the coin to see what else could be affected. If we are just looking for a spread on a normal sized device, then it is probably just spinning out wheels. If we something on normal sized devices, it is probably just MD. Even then the device would be reduced a bit because of the die movement after the strike. So keep images handy for comparison. If you see something that seem larger, make a side by side with a normal coin. That is when you will see the differences. Hope this helps?
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Agree normal.
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Thanks Coop that does help. I have read a few of your threads and they are very informative. I try to keep it all in mind while looking at a coin but sometimes I think hope gets in the way. I'm sure the more coins I look at the easier it will be to tell the difference. Thx again everybody.
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Don't give up. You need to train your eye to note differences. When you scan across a coin, something will go off and have you look back a second time. Listen to that voice. When you get used to looking at many coins this will start to happen. Until that happens, you are just looking at every nook and cranny on a coin. So more coins pass the brains in your prescription. But feel free to ask. Who knows, your question may be the same question someone else also want to know also. The answer is not just one one, it is a 'Coin Community" and we are all family.
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Thank you for that Coop. Honestly sometimes I question whether I should post a particular post or not I definitely don't wanna sound stupid or get on anyone's nerves. But I really appreciate the knowledge that everyone is offering, I am definitely gonna learn some things about coins here. Thx again CCF family.
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The 001 is a dream coin of mine in higher grade. Keep searching!
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It was the second coin featured on a thread I posted a while back:
http://goccf.com/t/270774
The first one was the DDR, then later images of the DDO for 1943.
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I got one, I got one, I got one, Yeaaaa! Is it worth getting graded?
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No. The coin is not a doubled die. What you are seeing is Machine Doubling. Note the lower right curve of the lower part of the "S" is smaller than the the rest of the devices? This happened after the strike. (reduction of the normal sized devices) Note the metal movement of the '4' as well. Pushed back NW on date and the mintmark. Just a steel Wheat cent now. So it is a keeper. But is not a doubled die. Note the images above again. The devices are enlarged on the die, thus they are enlarged on the coin.
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Thank you Sir! I'm learnin' as fast as I can! Sarge, Out
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