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2009 Proof Lincoln Cents Struck On Zinc Planchets.

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Anyone have "hands on" this one?

I posted this on another forum and the answer was no.

In "Letters" in the October 18, 2016 edition of the Numismatic New "Compositional varieties exist for 2009 Lincoln cents" covers Proofs & Satin Finish cents struck on zinc planchets. Every Proof and Satin Finish cents was supposedly struck in the original 1909 solid bronze planchets.
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 Posted 10/20/2016  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the PCGS Coinfacts link on the LP1

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2009 plain 1C Lincoln-Early Childhood, RD (Regular Strike)
Diameter: 19.00 millimeters
Designer: Victor David Brenner / Richard Masters
Weight: 2.50 grams
Edge: Plain
Mintage: 284,400,000
Metal Content: Copper-plated Zinc
2009-S 1C Lincoln-Early Childhood, DC (Proof)
Diameter: 19.00 millimeters
Designer: Victor David Brenner / Richard Masters
Weight: 3.11 grams
Edge: Plain
Mintage: 2,995,615
Metal Content: 95% Copper, 5% Zinc
2009 1C Lincoln-Early Childhood Satin Finish, RD (Special Strike)
Diameter: 19.00 millimeters
Designer: Victor David Brenner / Richard Masters
Weight: 3.11 grams
Edge: Plain
Mintage: 784,614
Metal Content: 95% Copper, 5% Tin and Zinc


More facts and figures on different mints and type also available on this site. But this was used to show the planchet types and mintages of the LP1.
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@JT Stevens

When I came upon your post, I'm not sure if this is what your referring to..

I found the post below in one of my Facebook groups, and should note James Porter has NOT removed the cent from the PCGS holder to weigh it, and used words like "may have been struck" and "potentially zinc cent"..

I have no idea why he doesn't want to crack out the Cent to confirm if it is a zinc or copper proof, it's only graded PROOF 66RED (I would think most would grade 69/70.

***F/Book thread below***


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James Porter shared his photo.
October 7 at 4:47am

My letter to the editor on page 10 in the October 18, 2016 " Numismatic News" relates to my PCGS slabbed 2009-S Proof Formative Years cent that may have been struck on the wrong composition (W.C.) planchet. (See my August 5th photo in Coinseekers) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...67563&type=3
Can you all help me to try and find other 2009 proof and satin finish W.C.'s? Common copper-plated zinc cents weigh 2.6 grams, while the 2009 bronze and older Lincoln cents from 1909 to 1942 weigh 3.2 grams.




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August 5

Just when you think you had it straight!
On one of the many PCGS proof 2009-S cents I acquired, there is a "scraped" area along the right side of the book that Abe is holding, and it is clearly bright silver colored, suggesting that at least this Proof coin is NOT 95% copper, but instead is copper-plated zinc. Just as in 1943 and 1944, because different composition planchets were being used, it might have been possible for the wrong compositions to be mixed in with the proper ones for Mint Sets, Proofs AND general circulation strikes; This would have created three additional "types" for the year, resulting in a total of eight different varieties of EACH reverse; P-Normal, D-Normal, S-Proof Normal, P-Satin, D-Satin, P-Wrong Composition (W.C.), D-W.C., S-Proof W.C.




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 Posted 10/21/2016  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JC Stevens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, James A . Porter wrote the letter. Thanks for the update.
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I think that it is quite irresponsible to publicly speculate that you may have what would be a very desirable off-metal error but refuse to release it from the slab for weight and independent analysis

That post by James Porter reeks of the same stench as the 1996 " Wide AM" that was supposedly discovered, never verified, and then supposedly lost via theft
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I had seen his F/Book post the last month or so & never replied..
I had forgotten about it until I seen the OP's question here and remembered it was somewhere on F/Book..
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I agree with biokemist6.
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Until he is able to show PROOF that it is copper plated zinc, is is just a copper cent with an odd colored scrape.
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reeks of the same stench as the 1996 " Wide AM"

If and when a 1996 Wide AM is found, there will be a lot of people owing Mr. Crawford an apology. The man has contributed greatly to our hobby. His story is unverifiable either way. I always check the 1996's, but will not consider the 2009's because the coin is available.
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I found a 2009 formative year on the ground at wal mart tonight. It's a weird coin as it looks alot thicker than a penny but only weighs 2.3 g. Is this coin possibly struck on a dime planchet? Ill try to post a pic of it later.
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