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Exclusive Master Club Renewed Silver Dollar #2 - Library Of Parliament

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 Posted 10/27/2016  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justsilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@onecad

As jimper mentioned earlier, he ordered 7 pcs Renewed SD under his Platinum Prestige ( when RCM did not set any quantity limit )

None of the coin got cancel.
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 Posted 10/27/2016  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wandering Eskimo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't understand the issue with the rep. Mine sent me advance notice.
Ordered and it immediately appeared on my profile. It is still there. I never ever call him. It is all done via email and I have never had a problem.


@New1954: When I first started to "seriously" collect RCM NCLT, the rep system worked great. I had a super rep, back then the RCM website wasn't nearly as robust, and - in my opinion - the MC program was designed to reward it's best customers (not increase sales).

What has changed since then:
- I have a new rep, and while he provides good service, the relationship isn't nearly what it used to be with my former rep.

- I feel that the MC program has evolved into a program to push the never-ending volumes of NCLT being produced by the RCM. As an example of this, one of the first products my new RCM rep attempted to push on me was a gold kilo coin (I've never, ever purchased a kilo coin, and I'm unsure of why he would have made the recommendation on our "first" discussion).

- The RCM website, despite all of it's flaws, has improved remarkably - with content, videos, and easier online ordering. In my opinion, it's easier to log in, place my order, confirm payment, and bam... things are done!

While the RCM rep system does add value for serious collectors, the Silver Dollar #1 and Silver Dollar #2 issues prove that there are also significant problems.

Idea: Why not assign MC members to a rep (as is normally the case now), but open online ordering up as well. For those who wish to order via telephone (or fax, or however else), they are able to do so. For those with crammed schedules, a simple log-in would suffice.

We have this exact system in place with my sales team... we encourage customers to place orders however they wish, and all sales commissions accrue to their Sales Rep.

Under this system, the Rep still has all of the incentive to form relationships and keep in contact with customers (phone, email, etc.)... and this relationship building is rewarded through the payment of commissions on every order, regardless of how they are placed with our firm.

Additionally, the ability to place online "digital" orders would likely:
- Lessen RCM paperwork
- Provide more accurate / up-to-the-minute inventory forecasting
- Lessen the burden placed on RCM reps (time could be allocated to relationships versus paperwork)
- Eliminate some of the abuses that are occurring with the present Rep system.
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 Posted 10/27/2016  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New1954 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@jimper

I just do not believe that you will get the seven. I too placed an order via the web and it had disappeared.
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 Posted 10/27/2016  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New1954 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@blastofffireworks

My rep sends me advance order.

I reply with what I want.

My rep replies back....all this via email.

Easy. Easy. He never pushes or tries to sell me anything. I think that in the two years that I have had him, I spoke with him maybe 3 times.

Why is this so difficult?
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 Posted 10/27/2016  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New1954 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't need lengthy conversations with my rep.

I order and he places the order.

Remember, when you order via web, the rep gets no commission. Maybe there lies the problem with your situation. The web sends me advance notices as well; however, two days later than my rep. I am platinum prestige and more.

Also, that website can't even send shipping notices correctly. I get two for every order plus no tracking number any longer. Computers are not always accurate.
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10/27/2016 9:01 pm
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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Before the quantity limit, I was going about to order 2 coins in addition to the one from my rep. Couldn't make up my mind, hesitated and when I when back to the cart it said limit, one per customer. Should have ignored the guy on the other coin forum who the coin would be the 2nd Dino.

Anyways, I ended with one extra coin when I could had many more.

@New1954, how did you pay with for your coin? I used PayPal and so far the order has not been cancelled. The current status is processing.

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10/27/2016 9:17 pm
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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@New1954

So far they are still active. As I mentioned earlier I will not be posting/selling these until I receive them.

Exclusive-Master-Club-Renewed-Silver-Dollar-#2---Library-Of-Parliament

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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope you get them all
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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justsilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@MoneyPenny

I believe I also mentioned in other coin forum that 2016 Renewed SD might be Dino 2 becasue RCM had 198 pcs available online on the first release date on RCM website.

No quantity limit.

I had chance to order 25pcs ( I like to collect 1% of mintage on some coins. lol ) but decided not to.......
Figured too risky for me after ordered 30pcs Dino 2 & 30pcs Dino 3.

Anyway, still do not know if jimper will get his 7pcs Renewed SD or is RCM going to cancel his entire order except 1 pc.

Good luck to all......
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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@justsilver

I don't think they will be cancelled for the reason that they are all sold out. I've never seen a coin pulled off the sold out section and put back in stock for sale again. The only time they do that is when it says awaiting stock. IMHO
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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nubee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And there it ends until November delivery.

"Good luck to all......"
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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Anyways, I ended with one extra coin when I could had many more.


The things very dynamic, MoneyPenney
It couldn't turn the Dyno-2, but easily Donald Duck-2.

Taking in account not exceptional high price, you could get, let's say 2-3 extra. And more would be dangerous....

So you didn't buy it, don't worry, not the last popular RCM coin
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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justsilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@jimper

I am also confused because some members here have orders being cancelled on Renewed SD for no reason.

Good luck to your orders. ( and mine. lol )
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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@justsilver

Perhaps they missed mine or maybe they just left all the platinum prestige members orders go through. Has anybody's order get cancelled if you are a platinum prestige?

Good luck to all who ordered more than one.
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 Posted 10/27/2016  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wandering Eskimo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
My rep sends me advance order.

I reply with what I want.

My rep replies back....all this via email.

Easy. Easy. He never pushes or tries to sell me anything. I think that in the two years that I have had him, I spoke with him maybe 3 times.

Why is this so difficult?


@New1954: I agree - it shouldn't be. The problem is, this exact system almost cost me Silver Dollar #1. I placed the order via e-mail with my rep, and I'm guessing he was out of the office / had meetings / his dog ate the order.

In the interim, I had an opportunity to place the same order online with an instant confirmation. I hesitated, and did not make the order online, as I had faith that things would be processed accordingly.

The coin then sold out...

Only after I voiced displeasure, given the circumstances, did I receive the desired coin..

My point: this whole process could have been avoided simply by a more robust online ordering system for MC members. My rep could have received full commission for the purchase - made in real-time - without any paperwork on his part.

It's a nearly closed-loop system that has far fewer possibilities for error.

I'm not advocating the removal of RCM reps - they (in my case) still do a good job at disseminating information and "making the sale"... I simply think that self-service options have a ton of merit for the RCM.

Using my case as an example, the rep could have saved all of the paperwork / phonecalls / administration / apologies, while still earning his commission with Silver Dollar #1. If the RCM can make things easier (and cheaper), why not?

As for Silver Dollar #2, the verdict is still out on how things will play out. Fingers crossed!
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