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Anyone have any ideas on this one?
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@rdwarrior, that is a good challenge. I'm still trying to decipher the inscriptions and having only modest luck on the second pic (last three digits are E P S). Certainly seems European and most likely 1500s to 1700s. Is it about 20 mm in diameter and 1 g in mass?

I'll spend some more time looking for this little silver denar/pfennig, but hopefully someone else can weigh in also.
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Spence, thanks for the reply.
The weight is .85g and the diameter is approx 20 mm.
I was hoping someone might recognize the central device in the first picture, the X inside a box. Its one I have never seen before and I was hoping someone might use it to at least point me in the right direction.
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Found it! Your coin is a quarto from the House of Savoy. It was minted under Louis (1440 to 1465 AD) and can be attributed as Roberts 9712.

You are right that the diamond-shaped cross is different from most, but it is the four letters on the rev (in between the lines) that are diagnostic for this coin. They are gothic letters spelling F E R T. This is the so-called "enigmatic word fert". One potential translation is that fert is short for the German word fertif, which means Be Prepared.

Great pick-up and thanks for posting! As your coin is from the 1400s, I'm going to recommend to the mods that this post get moved over to the ancients/medieval section of CCF.
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I was thinking 1600s, only off by 2 00 years.
Thanks Spence for your time and knowledge
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