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Gilly Pillar of the Community United States 1218 Posts	Posted 11/28/2024 9:10 pm On the putting the Morgan and Peace dollars in the 25th anniversary set OGP: I would imagine you'd rather not take them out of the original capsules. Otherwise, if you were willing, you could think about sourcing the original ASE capsules for that set. The large dollars are a little smaller and may be loose in the ASE caps, so trading one problem for another. You could then think about if you'd want to try spacer rings? Another thought would be trying to tighten up the holes with felt or something. On the "Grand daddy" comment, right, I would usually associate grand daddy, grandfather, etc with the first set. And it really is significant that they went that long, 8 years, with only bullion and proofs, for the silver eagles, at least the gold eagles they did sell the different denominations together in sets. Of course at least they HAD different denominations, so maybe not a fair comparison. Everyone gets giddy about the 1995 set because the eagle was different, so everyone wants that 95W. But again they did it 2 years earlier, except the ASE is the same as the rest that year, so no excitement over it. So the set doesn't really get it's due, especially when you still have to pay up for the gold in the set, just to end up with a run if the mill and probably ugly toned 1993P proof ASE. After that there was the other little known set, the 1997 Impressions of Liberty set, 1oz ASE, 1 oz gold eagle, 1oz platinum eagle, and it was the first year for the platinum eagle. But here again, you're getting the regular 1997P ASE and needing to pay for the ounce of gold and platinum. But I'd probably have to say it's probably the nicest OGP to have an ASE in it. Plus ALL are serial numbered with matching number on the COA and ALL are hand signed by the mint director, so this is a very, shall we say "exclusive" set. So you have these 3 really significant sets in the 90s, plus the 20th anniversary sets (3 different sets) in 2006 before you get to the 25th anniversary set. Which is a significant anniversary, and has the most ASEs in it than any other set. So definitely a favorite of mine, that's where it becomes a matter of opinion, which one is someone's favorite. Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5604 Posts	Posted 11/29/2024 08:47 am Gilly, Your ASE collection Must look Awesome. I know how your Also into All Original Government Packaging, From the U S Mints. I see your comments about the 1993 set and 1997 sets about the rarity of those coins/sets. The ASE Proof that the 1997 set has is the P mint marked example that was declared by the then Mint director Philip H.Diehl to be the Forth lowest minted Proof, ASE to that date. I am seeing the 1995-W mintage is @ 30, 003. ( was 30,125 but the mints own records show this. ) The 1997 has a mintage of 435,368. I am simply asking your opinion on what you stated. You stated the 1997 Impressions of Liberty set was : " But I'd probably have to say it's probably the nicest OGP to have an ASE in it." I ask How the other sets that carry the Same Exact coins, are thought to be Nicer, Rarer? I too collect the American Silver Eagle Series, I think While those sets are Unique in their own setting, The Opinions Greatly Vary. Why would a Set, the 1997 Impressions of Liberty which contains an Philadelphia Mint Marked Proof ASE, carry the Weight you suggest. Because it was presented with Other Starters, Other Attractive coins, ? I simply do Not agree that a Coin that presents itself with a Mintage of 435,368, Could Challenge the , In My Opinion, The Grand-Daddy of All Highly collectible ASE's, The King of All American Silver Eagle Proofs, The West Point 1995-W Proof coin with a mintage of Just 30,003, Not take that Top Grand-Daddy Top position.... Ok the 1995 was Also presented with Other Coins of Interest Too... You also stated : " Everyone gets giddy about the 1995 set because the eagle was different, so everyone wants that 95W. " Giddy, Ok I Love the 1995-W Set. I am Completely Over-Joyed and treat that set as an Honor to Have and Hold... PS, I do not have any of the Other sets We speak of, I consider them getting doubles or Extras of the same coin. Where as you collect All the sets that were released, Sweet .. Collect what you Will..... Your positions on these topics are interesting and I appreciate your Experiences and Knowledge, I am Asking in All Due Respect, Simply Discussing Numismatics, .... Edit: My original Grand-Daddy comment was stated towards the 2011 25TH Anniversary ASE 5-Coin set, That set contains More ASE's than any other . Edited by Morgans Dad 11/29/2024 08:50 am Report this Post to the Staff
Gilly Pillar of the Community United States 1218 Posts	Posted 11/29/2024 09:47 am I figured I should upload at least the one image of the 1997 Impressions set. I guess this does become rather subjective or "my opinion". Anyone can certainly argue the quality of one set over another. Certainly the 10th Anniversary set could be consider the "King" of ASE sets, bearing in mind that the AGEs in the set still outweigh the cost of the 1995W, assuming grade 69, which generally is what they get from my observations. I'm not personally into graded ASEs, but seems like at 69 you're looking at the $2000 to $2500 range if you don't care about the label. Just generic labels. Compared to 1.85oz of about 22k gold. But I'd wholeheartedly agree it's the King of sets with an ASE due to the low mintage 1995W in it. The Impressions set, again just bear in mind that I firmly believe I have all the sets. But just look at the quality, the wood, metal hinges, the bag it came in, the rarity (4,965), the cost (about $1,500 in 1997 dollars), and don't forget serial numbered OGP, with serial numbered COA, and all COAs hand signed by the mint director. Not 50, or 230, or at random, ALL of them. But again this is just the OGP, this doesn't take in to account what you are asking, why do I hold this in high regard when it has a fairly mundane 1997P ASE. Again it's the quality of the presentation, I'm just saying it's in my opinion the best OGP with an ASE in it. Hard to argue with, but I'm all ears. It would be one thing if Magic Mike put it together (QVC channel guy), but the US Mint did this. Yes I guess we are just in disagreement over the term Grandpappy. To me it is a lineage thing. The 25th anniversary is a very desirable set and one that most people can aspire to obtain. I feel the price cut off for most people is the 25th anniversary set and the 2019S enhanced reverse proof. To get entire sets after that it gets really expensive really fast and I really had to scrimp, save, and sell things to get some of these sets we're talking about. Wife isn't totally happy about it, but it does take to less space than some of the things I sold off #128517; Edited by Gilly 11/29/2024 3:54 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CelticKnot Bedrock of the Community United States 12815 Posts	Posted 11/30/2024 10:03 am Wow, what a set, @Gilly! However I think we're veering off course from the OP's subject matter. Anyone else have any repurposed OGP? I have empty San Francisco ASE OGP that I'm trying to figure out something to do with. Hmmm... Report this Post to the Staff
commems CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives United States 12258 Posts	Posted 11/30/2024 10:52 am Quote: I think we're veering off course from the OP's subject matter. Might be better here: - Post Pictures Of USA Sets In Original Government Packaging Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved. Edited by commems 11/30/2024 11:34 am Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5604 Posts	Posted 11/30/2024 1:08 pm Your correct, Apologize for My mistake, .... Wrong Area to post, My Apology. Report this Post to the Staff
Gilly Pillar of the Community United States 1218 Posts	Posted 12/01/2024 09:53 am Yes you're right. It devolved into this mess when we talked about the reuse of the 25th anniversary ASE set. We then talked about early sets with ASEs in them, which is when we strayed OT. Report this Post to the Staff
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