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How Common Are Counterfeits?

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Hi all,

I'm mainly a collector of $1/2 notes and I've recently started my search for the 90+ year old examples. I would imagine that counterfeits become more prevalent the older you go, is that normally the case?

I mainly use ebay for buying because it seems like the cheapest and easiest option. I know you need to stay away from low feedback sellers, but I've also been more inclined to buy graded notes. Wouldn't graded notes be much less likely to be a counterfeit? Any idea what would happen if you sent a counterfeit in to be graded? Trying my best to avoid future mistakes so any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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 Posted 01/26/2017  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The likelihood of a counterfeit large $1.00 or $2.00 note being graded by a TPG company without being identified as a counterfeit is fairly small.
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TPG's are very good at weeding out counterfeits. It's unlikely you would see a problem with their authentication.
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I have been warned both in books and verbally that counterfeit and fake Confederate notes are VERY common.

That is a pity.

I would love to collect these, but I do not have anywhere enough skill in identifying fake or counterfeit from genuine.
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Either train yourself by studying and going to shows, buy certified notes, or trust your dealer - not many options, I'm afraid.
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This looks like the appropriate thread for this post.......here goes.

One of my brothers routinely finds modern star note in all denominations. He handles a lot of cash and knows about my collecting interests. Normally he only saves me star notes in AU/CU condition. Today was different. Picture a park setting, very shady on an overcast day and he hands me a circulated, generic 2009 $20 and says " I thought you might like to have this". At first glance and feel you would think it was genuine. Knowing my brother wouldn't bother me with a note like this, I held it up to the light and did not see either a security strip or watermark. When I compared it with $20's in my wallet you could easily see a darker tint, both front and rear between the genuine currency and the counterfeit note.

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I can't believe I stumbled upon this question, because I found a counterfeit $20 Friday. I was sitting at a red light when I looked down at the curb, and saw what I believed to be a dollar bill. As I sat there patiently awaiting the light to turn green, my curiosity got the best of me. I jumped out of my vehicle and snatched up a rolled up bill. I threw it into my passenger seat, and rolled down the road. Well my curiosity got the best of me, so I unraveled the $20 bill much to my amazement. I thought the bill felt limp, and looked a bit faded. So I go to the gym, and throw the bill into my pocket for a wash, because it was DIRTY. I go to get it out of my wash, but nothing was left but shards of paper. I had picked up a counterfeit bill, probably just a color copy.
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I agree. If paper currency disintegrates in the wash, it probably was printed on common wood pulp paper and not cotton/linen paper, like our paper currency.
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The old "clean your currency in the washing machine" method!
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