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Japanese 416 One Yen 900 Coin

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 Posted 02/19/2017  3:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Gino Bompiede to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey all,
I was given this Japanese 416 One Yen 900 coin and was seeking more information about it. Could it be real? How can I tell? If it is real what could it be worth? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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 Posted 02/19/2017  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off, welcome.

This is one of those coins for which fakes are so prolific that it pays to presume any specimen you run across to be a numismatic forgery until proven otherwise.

It may just be your photos, but overall its appearance isn't promising. An accurate weight (at least to a tenth of a gram) ought to be obtained. You might also see if a magnet sticks to it.

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 Posted 02/19/2017  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@gino, first welcome to CCF. Second, I would echo @LC's caution about so many of these being fake. There have been multiple of these posted to CCF over the years (use the search function for "416 one yen" to find them). Here is a particularly illuminating former thread, especially the detailed responses provided by @jjwabraham and @dnas:

http://goccf.com/t/242850

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 Posted 02/19/2017  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gino Bompiede to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help. I guess I'll start by seeing if a magnet sticks to it and obtain the weight.
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 Posted 02/19/2017  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverai to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dark color that surrounds the characters and detail spots is not a good sign, most likely man-made toning.
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 Posted 02/20/2017  05:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am leaning towards genuine however cleaned.

Please provide an accurate weight in grams, down to one decimal place.
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 Posted 02/20/2017  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dnas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, looks genuine, but worn and cleaned. Probably not worth faking such a worn coin
The 3 spine version is consistent with year 37 (1904).
In Japan, you can pick up a year 37 1 yen coin in that condition for around 5000yen (about $45)
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 Posted 02/21/2017  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lembafc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You probably have a lot of feedback already, but this is one of the most faked coins here in Asia. These faked coins here in Korea sell for ~$10-15 each. You should really be careful with these, get it weighed, and check metal content (magnet).


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Probably not worth faking such a worn coin


I disagree. There is good reason why these are faked so much. They sell on ebay all the time for $25-50 and even more if the coin shows the right date. You can make a lot of money if you have these fakes mass produced.

This coin looks too good to be true and I personally would not be confident enough to purchase it. These types of coins are in piles here in Korea and sold, with warning obviously, as fakes. Its not hard for an ebay seller to take this and flip it on ebay for double the money.

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 Posted 11/24/2018  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Philpet43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can someone look at this coin? It reads-out as an 1875 (Meiji). It is non-magnetic and is counter stamped with #37504; on the left. It matches other "legit" 416 ONE YEN 900 coin photos across this site. Is it a good coin? What is the approximate value?
(took me a couple of hours off and on the internet to get most of this info)

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 Posted 11/24/2018  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not genuine. Fonts are wrong especially the "gin" countermark.
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 Posted 11/27/2018  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
agree with above counter mark isn't the standard on genuine pieces, which lead to the fact that the coin very likely also being fake.
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 Posted 11/29/2018  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anything you buy these days you have to do homework on. The Chinese are flooding the world markets with counterfeits of all types.
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