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Note the location of the 'M'? It is not centered between the AME area. It is off to the left, so it is a close 'AM' which is normal for this year. So why does it appear to be farther than the normal location from the 'A'? Note the size of the left leg of the 'M'? It is narrowed from the die being over polished making the space on the left side, look like it is farther over. So there was some abrasion to cover an older/mutiple clash mark that altered that device. The alteration of the die reduced the field, leaving just the deeper part of the design present. Thus that part of that device was narrowed. The same thing happened on this coin, but all the digits were affected:  These are smaller than usual. The outside edge of this die was reduced. It removed part of the tops of the devices:   Hope this helps. It not, ask another question.
Edited by coop 03/03/2017 1:52 pm
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 the position of the FG also indicates a normal Close AM business strike. Have any wide AMs been found for '96? 
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but why are inials serifs
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Note sure what you meant by serifs? Serifs are on RPMs on the mint marks. On doubled dies they use the term notches to show a spread on hub doubling. Here are the RDV-005-007 reverses to compare with" 
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rdv-005/006 g vs rdv-007.
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if you change the angle and look at fg it comes way closer to the center and FG is WAM FG not regular.  
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Coop knows what he's talking about--this isn't a Wide AM. Apparently, at least one 1996 Wide AM has been found, but this coin is not one of them. Your photos are adequate to determine this is a normal Close AM.
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Khasil, you have the RDV 007 FG. It's important to look not only at the serifs, but also at the spacing between the initials and the memorial. Yours has the large gap of a CAM cent. Looking closer at the AMERICA on your coin, you'll see that the left leg of the M is thinner than the right leg, possibly from die polishing. This may be creating the illusion of a larger gap. Another marker is the placement of A in STATES. In CAM reverses, the A is closer to the T to its right -- that is evident in your coin. @Thulium I believe there was one reported 1996 CAM, but the owner claims to have been robbed outside of a coin show before ever getting it authenticated. (?) http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...6WideAM.html
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Thulium did you read the ? I asked, I asked about fg, if you do not know the answer let someone else look at it and yes I do know that coop knows everything about coins that is why I am asking and if it is not on the list or it was not found yet does not mean you can not try to find it and/or present it to the board, or that's what I thought. thank you.
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thank you Druu for your reply I may agree with everything, except this is not fg for rdv-007, I do not think so.
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The normal from both mints were made by the same master die:  Die wear may have affected your coin, but note on the right side of the 'M' you coin looks just like the right side location for that letter. The wide 'AM's the 'M' is in the center: 
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Thank you coop, thank you all. thanks.
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But I still never got the answer is why is "FG" on my coin matching the "FG" on WAM coin, but that's ok.
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Another area to examine is the "A" in STATES. It is farther to the right on the Close AM, and centered on the Wide AM. Looking at your images, it appears that the A is not centered. Sometimes, on a polished die, or a weaker strike, the FG can be hard to see clearly. 
Edited by cwb 03/04/2017 11:03 pm
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thank you. next time I find something i'ii make sure it's perfect or I toss it. thanks.
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