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1903 Indian Head Cent

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Picked this up. Thoughts on grade and problems? TPG grade and price paid in 48. Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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MS-63.
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Thanks. Thoughts on color based on pics?
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Hard to tell if the pics are showing true colour, if so I would say it might have altered surfaces, if not high ms, maybe 63-64 imo.
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I think it's upper MS but, those images have severely overblown highlights that actually make some of the fields look white.

I don't think it's questionable color, just questionable photography.
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Photography does make it look off, but I fear the large quantity of flyspecks may be a sign of a cleaning.
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As noted, color looks 'funny', but could be mid mint state
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Hard to tell color from your photos . There's an area on obverse ( lower band of liberty )that looks flat to me . Not wear ,probably a dab of grease . MS-63 .
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might make MS64 but pics have way too much reflective light to determine color or other surface issues.
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If the pic is accurate, don't like the color at all.
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MS 64 RB. Picture is a bit overexposed so its hard to determine color, but I don't think its a full red.
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I'll pass on trying to grade this from these pics. No way this is a natural color.
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Yeah, these pictures make it quite difficult to determine what colour it would be. If I had to guess (and it would be only a guess), I would say RB.
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I paid $84 postpaid for this one. Thanks for your thoughts.

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Interestingly, heritage sold this same coin for $149.50 in January of 2006. Pics were from the heritage auction 11 years ago. Don't know if it will look different now.

1903-Indian-Head-Cent
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Congrats. Obviously your pics on this thread were well off the mark.
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Yeah, the posting for my purchase only had tiny pics in slab so I used the heritage pics from 2006. I will update pics when I get it next week. Thanks.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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