Any Seated Dime Specialists , 1854 Variety

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stoneman227 Pillar of the Community United States 2376 Posts	Posted 07/26/2017 01:10 am This one has been in my 7070 for years and I just took pics for the tone. While I was at it I though I would take a shot at attributing it. It appears to be #104 from this page http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/..._104page.htm My issue is there is no mention of the nice double clash event on the reverse to the right of the ribbon and up through the E of Dime. There are also clash marks below the M of dime. Just wondering if clashes are not a part of attributing Seated coins ? Report this Post to the Staff

Biedercoins Pillar of the Community United States 1602 Posts	Posted 07/26/2017 09:11 am I'm not a specialist but, Wow !! Very nice, but I don't know how the TPGs handle that. I'm trying to superimpose in my mind and it's not working. Under the "M" looks like clash marks but the leaves to "E" and upward, not as much. Are you sure that's a clash and not just die cracks? Edited by Biedercoins 07/26/2017 09:37 am Report this Post to the Staff
smauggie Valued Member United States 271 Posts	Posted 07/26/2017 09:14 am A handsome coin! Are those die cracks among the stars in the upper right of the obverse? Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 07/26/2017 11:00 am Clashes do not create varieties. A variety with or without a clash is still the same variety, just different die stages of that variety. Report this Post to the Staff
stoneman227 Pillar of the Community United States 2376 Posts	Posted 07/26/2017 4:52 pm It was not my intent to imply that they do Conder. Clashes are merely markers to define die stages or identify individual dies. This die marriage seemed to be fairly well documented and I found it strange this clash was not mentioned, but as I said , Seated coinage isn't my thing and was looking for others input ( truly appreciate it , by the way ! ). Here is a fairly close overlay of the alignment of the dies when they clashed. It looks like Liberties arm left a clash mark to the left of the D of Dime as well. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 07/27/2017 12:46 pm I wouldn't use a die clash to try and identify an individual die. Die clash on a moderately frequent basis and a clash on one die is pretty much going to look like a clash on another one un less they are strong clashes and there is a rotational difference between the dies when they clashed. Attribution of Seated dime is still a fairly young field. Most coins have still probably not been attributed, there are probably still more varieties out there to be discovered, and die stage research is probably still in its infancy. So an unlisted or unremarked on die clash would not surprise me at all. Report this Post to the Staff
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