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The 1888/7 Snow-1 Indian Cent

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Hey all,

I haven't posted in a while. I just moved from Massachusetts to Maryland for my job relocation. So excited to actually be near a major coin show now. Can't wait to go in November!

Wanted to share my third 1888/7 Indian that I've found. It was on the end of an ebay roll with blurry pics, but I was able to make it out. Paid about 20 bucks. It's not in the best of shape, but it's still worth a fair amount.

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 Posted 09/06/2016  02:10 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find !
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 Posted 09/06/2016  07:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a good example of one without an apparent Cud. Could be due to heavy wear on coin.
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 Posted 09/06/2016  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good eye. As noted in the past, the Cud is not found on all examples.
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 Posted 09/18/2016  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only one I haven't picked that I've been searching for! Awesome!
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 Posted 09/19/2016  02:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A closer view:
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Well, I got this graded. It was a rough submission overall. Even though I specified the correct Coin # for the 1888/7, they disagreed and graded it as a G04 damaged plain ol' 1888. It is a major variety as well, which does not require the $18 attribution fee. They obviously missed it. If you're thinking this was a one-off, think again. I also submitted two 1873 Double LIBERTYs G04 and G Details (again a major variety), which they disagreed with calling regular 1873s. As well as two 1888 S-2 RPDs, one AU53 and one VF35 that they disagreed with (I paid the attribution fees for these as they are only minor varieties) and called 1888s. I don't know if there was someone in training or they just went on lunch break in the middle of this, but I am scratching my head as to how 5 out of 7 varieties submitted are ignored by three graders, unless only one is doing the attribution.

Luckily, I have read that they understand that there are mistakes sometimes and if I provide the proper images/documentation that I might be able to get this resolved.

That's all for now until next time!
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Hmmmnnnn odd, if they resolved it nice. But I would want to get that fixed
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I don't understand how a reputable grading company can miss an obvious variety when you call it out to them and it jumps off the coin and smacks you in the face- head's up!
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Let us know what happens with the process of getting it resolved.
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It might just be me but I think a decent amount of 1888/7 seem to of been discovered recently. Seems the variety has become more well known over recent years.
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This is correct. Though I've bought and sold several of them over the years, I've never really understood the attraction, much less the value. The overdate is generally invisible to the naked eye in low grades, and not always clearly even with a lens.
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I think the attraction and value is largely based on the fact that it is the only overdate for the series, but I do agree that in lower grades the overdate can be difficult to see
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Mike1487 - You were definitely screwed on this one. Apparently, even many graders don't know to evaluate a low-grade example.
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I read and reread this and I didn't find which TPG you sent these to.

Was it NGC or PCGS or some other?
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Oh sorry, it was PCGS. I figured they would be the best option for a coin like this; I had no trouble with previous 1888/7 submissions.
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