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Advice — Buying Coins Between Price Guides' Grades

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Or the old coin shop way (true story!)

Oh your coin is graded VF-25. It is not that much better than a VF-20. Thus it is a VF-20. I will offer 60% of VF-20 bid.

The coin was an 1814 large cent.
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Another vote for recently completed ebay auctions and numismedia. Eye appeal is also VERY important to me for my personal collection. I almost never pick up a coin with a plan to flip it, so it has to be one I want in my collection.
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Numismedia + completed ebay auctions is all you really need.
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I agree with Moxking - I always go to Heritage. They have a lot of resources available. If I can't find a coin on Heritage, I look at NGC's coin explorer, not for their value, but because they list a variety of auction prices for each grade.
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great topic, something I think about often.

A couple of thoughts. For one, since I do a lot of data analysis as part of my job, using microsoft excel all the time, making a simple graph from your favorite price guide could help. I quickly made this one for some semi-key Mercury dimes. Sheldon scale on the x-axis, 2018 blue book price guide values on the y-axis. you can specify straight or curved lines, etc.

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In addition to online resources for prices like numismedia and usa coin book, I like the "auction prices realized" at PCGS (others mentioned heritage and NGC):
https://www.PCGS.com/auctionprices/

You can tabulate in excel, calculate average, median, and graph these too. I usually knock of around $25 if I'm buying a raw coin vs. slabbed.

i totally agree about eye appeal effecting the grade too. you can just go by the PCGS photograde utility (app or online) but grading is often said to be an "art" as much as a "science", and pleasant toning, "originality", and other considerations all come into play when determining valuation - some of these are obviously subjective.
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Price guides can vary a lot in their pricing. Completed sales on ebay, Amazon, etc are the best indicator to me of that a coin is worth. Split grades are indeed problematic and same for MS coins. Look at the 1933 Lincoln in MS in any proce guide for example. VERY steep jump from 63 to 64. In some cases, you have an almost straight "arithmetic" type of growth, while in others, it is more "geometric." Coins that were widely hoarded (i.e: 1909 VDB Lincoln, 1950-D Jefferson) don't have a lot of variance grade to grade.
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Josh, this is what you can do for split grades pricing. For the example you gave of the 1905-O qtr, F12 $77 and VF-20 $198. There are 8 pts of difference between grades and $121. So, each pt difference is $15.13 (121/8). For an F-15, it would then be $77 + 45.39 ($15.13 * 3) = $122.39. Not too far off the $125 you spent. So, you did fine.
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