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In my opinion, the most accurate at grading coins on the forums are Coinfrog, IndianGoldEagle, Joseph7420, MikeF, and Moxking.
I agree with paralyse about the grading forum. I don't beat around the bush just to make the OP feel good. I try to accurately grade the coin and mention if it looks really bad.
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04/21/2018 7:25 pm
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Can anyone specify which sections this is happening in? Grading forum, usually after the grade was posted some people will still be adamant the TPGs are wrong sometimes by a lot. It's not every thread but you can find enough of them. The modern section can be bad to especially if it's about a graded coin. It happens on all forums in all honesty. The one that's always confused me is why people jump into a thread clearly about a graded coin preference to say they'd never buy a graded coin, never understood what that added  |
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Some people can write a negative response in a helpful and constructive manner, some can't. I think it should be everyone's goal to try to couch any constructive feedback in a friendly manner.
In the meantime, if somebody's words strike you the wrong way, remember that it's nothing personal.
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It helps to remember that we all have different collecting goals. I remember finding a dateless SLQ, beat-up, when I was 8 or 9 years old, and feeling like I had just won the coin lottery. If a bunch of people had rained on my kid parade by telling me that it was ugly and not worth more than a quarter and why would I even keep it, I'd probably have never collected another coin in my life. In other words, don't look down your noses at someone who posts a coin that's beneath your "standards." It might be the greatest thing they've ever had. Let them be excited about it!  I remember feeling awful reading about 'junk silver' when I was a newbie. I have some really crummy coins that I found as a kid and I still like having them decades (and decades) later. Just knowing that 'real' collectors would consider them junk made me feel embarrassed to own them. The words 'junk silver' don't bother me anymore, but I prefer the words 'melt value'. |
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When a "I'm thinking about buying this" thread comes up, and I agree with multiple negative replies before me, then I will sometimes use the word "Pass" to connote my agreement. Perhaps that is shortchanging the author, you may be right.
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I didn't get this in my post but I also think it helps to remember that the aims of someone posting in the Grading forums is different from soneone posting in a Recent Acquisitions or Days Of... thread. When you post in the grading forum you are asking people to judge either your own grade opinion or the TPG's that slabbed it. But when posting in a non-Grading forum, you are probably just proud to show off your new whatever-it-is, not looking for judgment or criticism about your purchase. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Adam (paralyse) makes many good points, but I would disagree that it's wrong to point out to a collector that "you have so many nice coins, why would you waste your money...?". Clearly, "waste your money" is a poor choice of words, but I often see experienced collectors wander off into the weeds trying to build a collection in an area they're clearly not familiar with - there's a major one going on right now with an top-notch coin collector buying into paper money. I consider it my obligation to point out my misgivings.
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04/21/2018 9:38 pm
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We forget, the typed word does not show voice inflection, eyebrow raise, eye twinkle, show of dimple(s), or sly grin. Imagine that I have given and definitely received, less than stellar, topic replies. So, sorry to those that I have rubbed the wrong way. I will take the high road from now on. For the person that said there was "fried egg" on my high grade 3 leg Buffalo nickel, thanks for making me use a light acetone wash to get the egg off. :) |
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Sorry guys after two pages of this, honest truth PCGS/NGC (ESPECIALLY CAC ones as well) know better 99 percent of the time. I had honestly hoped this would have went in a better direction, but it didn't so had to say it
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04/22/2018 01:04 am
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But when posting in a non-Grading forum, you are probably just proud to show off your new whatever-it-is, not looking for judgment or criticism about your purchase. I remember one particular coin in the "Post your recent coin purchases" thread in US Classic and Colonial coins forum. A member posted a cleaned and damaged semi-key date Morgan dollar. Another member and I pointed out that the coin had some obvious problems, and that an example with original surfaces and no damage was not too much more expensive. The member thanked us and said that he/she would probably return the coin and get a better example instead. I always will tell someone if their coin has some really bad problems, even in a non-grading forum. |
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I'm not saying that every comment has to be positive, "hey, that's great" but I see many threads that just start out negative and people seem to pile on. There is one poster in particular that finds the very tiny, minute, ticks and issues and then just describes it in detail. He/she also scrutinizes the surfaces and the slightest disturbance is claimed to be "environmental damage" or should be "Details Graded". I've been collecting for 40 years and there's no way some of these claims can be made, yet, they are said and then people start piling on. Another just repeats another person's post almost verbatim and, again, it is sometimes erroneous information but said in a way that sounds forceful and from an expert. Those are just a couple of the examples. I understand that someone posting an image of a potential purchase is seeking information and feedback and it should be honest. I'm not talking about these threads. But when a decent TPG coin is presented and ripped apart by so called experts who have never even seen the coin in-hand then it just gets frustrating to continue to read and come back to the forum. Edited by chesterb
04/22/2018 3:02 pm
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There is one poster in particular that finds the very tiny, minute, ticks and issues and then just describes it in detail. He/she also scrutinizes the surfaces and the slightest disturbance is claimed to be "environmental damage". I won't refer to any particular member, but I think I know who you mean. This member also claims that almost every coin is a details coin and has been cleaned, while in fact, the coin will have never been cleaned or will have a very light market acceptable cleaning. Quote:
Another just repeats another person's post almost verbatim and, again, it is sometimes erroneous information but said in a way that sounds forceful and from an expert. I agree with this. I have noticed this many times. Some inexperienced members will basically copy the previous post and present that as their opinion. Edited by SilverDollar2017
04/22/2018 3:12 pm
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Ok, I know exactly which 2 you are referring to. But those 2 don't have enough self awareness to recognize you're referring to them. Just let them do their thing and try to ignore them. I agree it's annoying especially because they are on this site every minute of every day like trolls under the bridge, but there's nothing CCF can do about it. It would be nice if there was a block user feature on this website. I would have blocked one of them a long time ago.
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A new collector doesn't know who or what information to filter out. I've tried to call it out but it's sometimes futile.
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