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1907-S Indian?!! Is This Possible Or Accurate?

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I just found this with my pile of regular Indians. Was there ever a 1907-s Indian? Is this possible. Really wanting to know if I have something here and thanks for your input. Here is 2 pics of reverse with the S and a pic of the obverse.


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Yes that scratch does look like an S, but I'm not aware of any from San Francisco minted '07s.
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Is the mark raised or incuse?
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I know there is not suppose to be a 1907-s but I am going crazy thinking I got something special and unique here. It looks slightly raised but its a fairly heavily worn coin. It doesn't look like a tampered or incused S.
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it's fake. sf mint did not produce cents before 1908.
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why would anyone fake an S on a 1907 Indian though? That's what I was wondering when I found. It's possible there could be a weird error or accident in the mint. Need to have an expert look at. It doesn't look fake at all, but I am not that lucky to find something that special but I hope I am.
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You are seeing an S where none exists. Although I can see why you would ask.
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I am seeing an S because there is no doubt %100 one there. Maybe my pic is not the best but I can see it with my naked eye and of course it's plain as day under a scope. I thought about cleaning the area around it but don't want to cause a certifier will say cleaned or rubbed or whatever.
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The only way to resolve this is to submit it to TPG and keep us informed. To go on speculating is silliness.




















Odds are heavily stacked against you on this. The only way to prove your point is to submit it to TPG and keep us up to date. Otherwise speculation is just silliness.




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I will do. Hoping for the best.
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I definitely see an S there.
My guess would be a practice piece for someone planning to commit the crime of adding an S to a 1909.
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I think this may be an added mintmark. Since the San Francisco Mint did not produce IHCs until 1908, it's highly unlikely that it is real. However, the only way to confirm this is to submit it to a TPG. If they say it's real, you have discovered a piece of great rarity. However, they will most likely say it's been altered.
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I question the idea of sending it in to a TPG until somebody can come up with a suggestion as to what may have resulted in such a piece's creation.
Since cents were not struck in San Francisco until 1908, there wouldn't be a 1907 obverse die around to accidentally get mated with a 1908 S reverse.
Unless someone knows that the SF dies were prepared in Philadelphia - with a mint mark, and could have been accidentally paired with a Philly 1907 obverse before being sent out to SF. In that case, I could see the logic behind this.
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My suggestion before wasting your money on a TPG body bag would be to try soaking in acetone overnight. If that is a glued on S, it should loosen up enough to tap it off.
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You could send an email to Rick Snow along with pics.
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My vote is that the "mintmark" is a blemish that resembles an S.

Out of curiosity, what does the edge of it look like?

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