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Parthian Drachm ID Quiz...difficulty Level: Easy

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Heritage just listed the following Parthian drachm:

Parthian-Drachm-ID-Quiz...difficulty-Level:-Easy

Very nice coin, but misattributed as Pacorus I (Sellwood's Vologases III). The folks at Heritage should know better - especially since there has been a free, great (and fun!) tool for Parthian drachm identification online for about the past year at:

https://mrcollector.eu/parthia/identifier.php

Try out the identifier. It's easy and will only take a minute. It seems to be correct every single time. Report back. How should the bright folks at Heritage have attributed this coin?

Just two quick notes that may help as you use the online tool. One concerns the question about "pendents" (sic - they mean pendants, I assume). As used at the identifier site "pendents" refers to the diadem strands/ends that hang behind the head of the king. The other note concerns whether the earring is visible - you'll be asked this. On Parthian drachms of this period, here is how the earring was depicted:

Parthian-Drachm-ID-Quiz...difficulty-Level:-Easy

Okay, everything else off your desk, please. No looking at your neighbor's monitor. You have five minutes. You may begin...
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I think number IV ? albert
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number IV


Correct so far, Albert. But who is it - what's the name?
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A bit late to the party but I can fully understand your disappointment regarding the listing Bob.
That is one heck of a site that you & other collectors of these types have at your disposal
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Well done, all. The teacher gives you an apple:





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one heck of a site


Yeah, it's kind of brilliant. Useful tool, especially for newbies to Parthians. Bookmark-worthy for sure.
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Very interesting site Bob. A nice resource. Thanks for sharing. I believe I've since this coin (not this exact coin) misattributed in other sales/auctions.

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Bob L:

The easiest Parthian coin identifier since sliced bread !
or in another way:,
makes identification a piece of cake!

Thanks muchly for the reference.

Another way of saying thanks by way of jest:
'I will remember you in my will !'

This site helps numismatic generalists, such as myself, in a very useful way, in the identification of Parthian drachms.
Makes my copy of Gardner's book easier to use.

Is there an identifier for Parthian tetradrachms?


I had a bit of a wander down the Parthian track a little further, into Google images:
'Parthian gold coins', and found that there a few very rare gold staters of the early Parthian satraps.
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I believe I've since this coin (not this exact coin) misattributed in other sales/auctions.


Yes, Steve, it's certainly pretty common to see Parthian drachms that resemble Vologases III (Assar's Pacoros I) misattributed by dealers and auction houses. As you may recall I created a thread on the very topic back in early 2017, a thread with advice/info that is now superseded by the ease of the newish mrcollector online attribution tool. My old thread is here: http://goccf.com/t/283052


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Is there an identifier for Parthian tetradrachms?


Yes. Me.


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I had a bit of a wander down the Parthian track a little further, into Google images:
'Parthian gold coins'


As far as we know, the Parthians - referring here to the Arsacids - issued no gold coins. So if ever a so-called Parthian coin, supposedly issued by a king of the Arsacid line, is listed in gold, it is almost certainly fake.

But, having said that, gold issues were minted by the regional predecessors of the Arsacids - meaning the Seleucid satraps - in the province of Parthia. So, technically, yes, gold coins from Parthia do exist - but in this context we simply mean Parthia as a geographical region. But it is very doubtful that any gold coins exist from the Parthian Empire.
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Bob, I just used that tool and got it! That is a great resource and extremely easy to use.

BTW - I know absolutely nothing about Parthian coinage.
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