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You forgot one major distinction, the one above is the tilted 2 (in date) variety. Unlisted in all major publications till now. Here is the corrected/regular one. ;) Quote:
I will be posting an in depth description of the 1862 Rupee...
A collecting area all of its own with 42 known varieties... Paul, Where did you last check on how many are known? I think there are quite a few more.
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Here is the A/III variety.
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Some beautiful coins. I am looking forward to what is coming next.
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Unlisted in all major publications till now. Very interesting Director... At least I got the base variant correct.. Didnt know about this new sub variant(tilted 2) were there many minted?..Which publication is it referenced in? Very nice coins you have there thanks for sharing.. As to the number of variants in the 1862 1 Rupee denomination...Yes I know there are a great deal more. But as I said before in this thread I want to try and keep it as simple and user friendly as possible, as you know, this series has a quagmire of variants, so I will be sticking to the major, easier to decipher, ones..Such as top and bottom dot varieties and Obverse/Reverse differences in design..Anyone then whose interested in seriously collecting this denomination can look into the more obscure variations in depth...But if there is a variation that you feel is important that I dont cover please feel free to post it.. Im still working on how to present the 1862 Rupee without making people go cross-eyed, there is a lot of data to collate but I'm getting there now and hopefully will be able to keep people interested  ...Paul |
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1862...Next up is the 1/4 Rupee..silver content 0.917 / 2.92 grams...Coins minted from 1862-1873 all have the date 1862.The next dated 1/4 Rupee is 1874. The Quarter Rupee coin series 1862-1901 has three distinct Obverse designs. The floral patterns in the dress also differ.See Ref# 1. Type A - The front of the dress has 4 panels. A flower appears at the right on the bottom panel.A small inverted V is present bottom centre of dress. Type B - The front of the dress has 3-3/4 panels. A flower appears at the center on the bottom, incomplete panel.Only used on coins from 1877-1885. Type C - The front of the dress has 3 panels. A flower appears at the left on the bottom panel.Only used on coins from 1886-1901.  The Quarter Rupee has two Reverse designs..See Ref#2.. Reverse I - The top flower has petals at its base that are long and curve downward. The slash in "1/4" is long, the top almost touching a flower. Reverse II - The top flower has petals at its base that are short and less curved. The slash in "1/4" is short, the top being well clear of the flower above it.  1862 Quarter Rupee K#470 Bust A..Reverse I - 19.3-19.4mm..Coarse milled edge (Calcutta) 19,412,000 Bust A..ReverseI - 19.7-19.8mm..Narrow milled edge (Bombay) 11,390,000 Bust A..Reverse I - 19.8-20.0mm..Coarse milled edge (Madras) 5,049,000 Bust A..Reverse I - V1CTORIA error ("1" instead of "I") This must be a very rare coin as I cant seem to find a photo anywhere? If anyone has a coin or a photo example please post it ..Thanks See comparison of milled edges Ref#3  Heres my coin... Bust A..Reverse I - 19.3-19.4mm..Coarse milled edge (Calcutta) 19,412,000 
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This topic continues to be rather fascinating.  |
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Another great post Palouche.  |
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At least I got the base variant correct.. Yes, of course, which is quite commendable, since you being not from India and collecting British Indian coins Quote:
Didnt know about this new sub variant(tilted 2) were there many minted? I am not sure, I have only seen one example till now...since 15 years of collecting...Quote:
Which publication is it referenced in? It is not listed in any, but it soon will be as one collector friend is working on getting one of his books published...Quote:
As to the number of variants in the 1862 1 Rupee denomination...Yes I know there are a great deal more. But as I said before in this thread I want to try and keep it as simple and user friendly as possible, as you know, this series has a quagmire of variants, so I will be sticking to the major, easier to decipher, ones..Such as top and bottom dot varieties and Obverse/Reverse differences in design..Anyone then whose interested in seriously collecting this denomination can look into the more obscure variations in depth...But if there is a variation that you feel is important that I dont cover please feel free to post it..
Im still working on how to present the 1862 Rupee without making people go cross-eyed, there is a lot of data to collate but I'm getting there now and hopefully will be able to keep people interested I was just making sure you were aware since you are such an advanced collector of this series, didn't want you to be in the dark, that's all. Please keep up what you are doing and thanks for sharing the wealth of information. I will keep throwing in small challenges along the way. There are quite a few varieties that are unlisted btw, cheers ;) |
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And Palouche Paul, is this all your information or are you following a book?
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Thanks Guys... Quote:
is this all your information or are you following a book? About 30 years ago, (Now I'm feeling old), I lived in India for a couple of years and fell in love with the people, culture, FOOD, and history...Whilst there I started seriously collecting Colonial coins. Then, as you know, they were very cheap and easy to acquire,and so I started collating information..Notes,hand sketches etc...So in answer to your question probably 70-80%,(depending on the denomination), of the information is from data I collected many years ago...This is the main reason why I started this thread to modernize, cross-check and in particular to refresh my own memory/knowledge of this series...I use a multitude of different references which I utilize to strengthen, add to, and in some instances change, the information I accrued. Quote:
since you are such an advanced collector of this series I wouldnt class myself as an advanced collector, more very enthusiatic and keen to learn more so will be looking forward to seeing some new unlisted variants,please be gentle.  Quote:
It is not listed in any, but it soon will be as one collector friend is working on getting one of his books published... Please keep me informed on your friends reference book (fingers crossed he gets it published) I would be very interested in viewing it..Paul |
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1862...1/2 Rupee...Silver content 0.917..5.83 grams..24mm dia...Edge reeded.. Coins minted from 1862 through 1873 all have the date 1862...The next dated 1/2 Rupee is 1874-1899...There was a restrike in 1900? There were 3 types of bust used in this series...See Ref#1 Type A - The front of the dress has 4 full panels. Type B - The front of the dress has 4-1/2 panels Type C - The front of the dress has 4-3/4 panels and the floral style of the bodice is different. This type is apparently unique to the 1862 issue? The floral style is different for all three types.  There were two reverse types..See Ref#2 Reverse I - The top flower has petals that are long and curve downward.Flat topped 1 in date.. Reverse II - The top flower has petals that are short and less curved.Slanted topped 1 in date..  1862 Half Rupee K#472..There are no mintmarks.. Bust A..Reverse I... 7,649,000 Kolkata (Calcutta) Bust C..Reverse II.. 1,623,000 Kolkata (Calcutta) Bust A..Reverse II.. 763,000 Kolkata (Calcutta) Key date coin Rare. Bust B..Reverse II.. 7,122,000 Mumbai (Bombay)/Chennai (Madras) As far as I know you cannot distinguish between the Bombay and Madras mints? Please note I make every effort to present the details as precisely as posible but even monkeys fall out of trees I have noticed that when cross referencing certain details, on all denominations, there are some contradictions. If there is any information that Ive misinterpreted or you can expand in more detail a certain feature please let me know so I can update my database Thanks Paul.. Heres mine.. K#472 B/II...Bust B..Reverse II..7,122,000 Bombay/Madras?  |
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but it soon will be as one collector friend is working on getting one of his books published...
Director please let us know if publishing occurs. I am always looking to add another reference book to my library. Palouche another great post. I have started looking for a couple of these coins to add to me collection. Very interesting. |
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Thanks scopru.. Quote:
have started looking for a couple of these coins to add to me collection. Very interesting. If you have any questions please feel free to ask and hopefully I will be able to help if needed.. Are you looking at silver or bronze?..Paul |
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I have been looking at both and trying to determine which examples to go for first. I really like the Victoria coins, but the scalloped and diamond shaped George VI are really interesting as well. A lot of choices for sure.
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1862 1 RUPEE K#437.1...Silver content .917..11.66 grams..31.0mm dia (depending on mint)..Reeded edge.. Due to the complexity of this date series I will break the posts up into smaller sections.. 1..Firstly the Main Obverse and Reverse types with NO DOT formations on the reverse.. 2..Secondly the reverse DOT varieties....Easier than you think... 3..Finally Id like to post some rarer variants,(Hopefully other people will too), that can then be scrutinised. Coins minted from 1862-1873 all have the date 1862.The next dated 1 Rupee is 1874. There were 3 Mints running.. Bombay....30.7/30.9mm diameter. Calcutta..Less than 30.7mm diameter. Madras....30.9/31.0mm..It closed in 1867 and as far as I know only 2 types of Rupee were minted here B/II 0/0 and B/IIa 0/0..? The referencing format for these coins is for example... B/IIa 0/0...Bust type B/Reverse type IIa..No dots below the top flower/No dots above the bottom flower ObverseThis first post will be presenting the 1862 Rupee with no dot formations on the reverse... First lets look at the three basic bust types used...See Ref#1 Note..Although the differences are very slight between Bust A and Bust C they can usually be distinguished by the reverse type used,also Bust C was not used on the no dot Varieties...  Variations of the basic Bust..Please note these variations are not necessarily akin to a particular Bust type..See Ref#2  ReverseThere were 5 types of basic reverse used throughout the 1862-1901 series..Type IV was not used on the 1862 dated coins..See Ref#2a  Types 1862 Rupee 0/0 No dot formations on the reverse... A/I 0/0 Madras 1862-1863 A/II 0/0 Bombay 1862-1863 A/IIa 0/0 Calcutta 1862-1863 A/III 0/0 Calcutta 1862-1863 B/II 0/0 Calcutta 1862-1863 30.7mm or smaller, round pearls atop the crown. B/II 0/0 Bombay 1862-1863 30.7-30.9mm, elongated pearls atop the crown. B/II 0/0 Madras 1862-1863 30.9-31.0mm, elongated pearls. B/IIa 0/0 Madras or Bombay 1862-1863 B/III 0/0 Calcutta 1862-1863 Just to put all this info into practice here is my coin.. A/I 0/0 Madras mint..  |
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