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Bedrock of the Community
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Easy problem solved:
Somebody post a comparison reeded edge picture of OP's coin and a "real" one! I don't have one to take a picture of.
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Moderator
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Quote: I don't have one to take a picture of. You are not alone. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Everybody who owns a golden eagle of that period can make the comparison and maybe help us out and post their photograph of a genuine piece.
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United States
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I own a 82 in a PCGS holder, but I can not get a comparable photo of the edge. When comparing genuine coins to possible counterfeits, it is best to use the same date and mint.
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Quote: Everybody who owns a golden eagle of that period can make the comparison and maybe help us out and post their photograph of a genuine piece. Agreed someone could certainly post a coin from their collection that we could compare. But why would they? You didn't ask if the coin was fake - you stated it is fake. You made the claim and we have asked you to put forth your evidence. Big difference in stating a fact and asking a question. I would say given the comments above, and the fact these are claims you have also made about other members coins in several threads, it is on you to present the evidence of it being a fake. As I said earlier, you could be right, but at this point you are only stating your opinion and then depending on the rest of us (who are asking for your reasons) to provide the proof for you. In every thread you claim FAKE in, there is a chance you could be right. But at this point, you have not really answered the questions you have been asked as far a your reasons and evidence of coins being fake. Therefore, I am not inclined to put much value on your opinions since you make a statement as if it were a fact and then depend on the rest of us to prove it for you. Or to sum it up in the eloquent words of Toot Quote: Stop beating around the bush and please explain yourself! 
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Pillar of the Community
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Methinks perhaps our honored member is utilizing this forum to have his coins verified by our most knowledgeable numismatic members by crying "wolf" rather than by requesting their assistance?
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I have compared already before posting the forgery.  If this is not being appreciated here than this is not my problem. You can not enforce people to learn. They have to do it by themselves.
Edited by coinworldtv 10/26/2018 2:12 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Comparing to a real $10 liberty under a loupe, the 1907 counterfeit's reeding is irregular. The spacing is OK, but the reed ends wander in position relative to the rims.
This is a fake raw bullion coin. The average buyer wouldn't catch it, especially with the correct weight. I bought a good looking polished fake a few months ago, but it was easy to catch because the weight was 1.5 grams light, and I returned it. This 1907 is much tougher.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 10/26/2018 11:25 am
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Pillar of the Community
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We cannot learn if we are not being taught. Posting an image and calling it "fake" with no explanation teaches us nothing.
This is not our problem.
And this is not the first thread where I have noticed this. Far from it. So-called obvious examples can be spotted by comparing the fakes to known genuine pieces, such as in PCGS CoinFacts. Over time, I've learned to recognize cast counterfeits because someone eventually told us what to look for. This example is described as "stunningly well-made" and no one in this thread has been able to say exactly why it is not genuine.
To my uneducated eye, it looks like a genuine piece with a smear of red paint. And the only clue we're given is to look at the edge? We can't play "spot the difference" if we have only one image.
Edit, after seeing thq's response: Thank you, I noticed that irregularity as well but thought it was could have been some kind of wear. Presuming that's really the determining factor, would it have killed the OP to have written those two short sentences?
Edited by Alpha2814 10/26/2018 11:29 am
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Pillar of the Community
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We appreciate knowledge, we don't appreciate the guessing game. Most of us are too old for that stuff.
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Rest in Peace
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Well I've heard enough! The OP has made this a game for which there is no winner, no educational purpose as he just has us running around in circles!  From this point on when I see a post by this op I wil not read nor respond to it as it just gives he or she fuel to further frustrate the good members of this forum! bad form coinworldtv, bad form. 
Edited by Tootallious 10/26/2018 11:43 am
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I do not discount what coinworldtv says because I have been duped for $600 (by a coin dealer I trust who had also been duped). He has posted excellent photos of the diagnostic.
I trust the on-line bullion brokers. But would they catch this?
It's always caveat emptor. Education is the buyer's responsibility.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 10/26/2018 12:04 pm
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Coinworldtv may be right, but in the future he needs to explain to us WHY he thinks it's fake, not have us play a guessing game.
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