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1858 Over 1858 Flying Eagle Double Date Strike.

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 Posted 04/18/2019  6:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sasquatch to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I am new member here and a collector for 40 years.

I was recently going through an old jar of coins and found a 1858 Flying Eagle cent that had the date struck twice. I am wondering if anyone here has seen this error or should I accept it as a fake?
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 Posted 04/18/2019  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PamV to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am recently new to the forum and collecting as well. Flying eagles are one of my favorites and I love the hunt of finding errors. Have not been as lucky as you there my friend. Congratulations! I am envious. I will get a flying eagle one day.
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 Posted 04/18/2019  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need clear close up of date. Reverse photo would also help.
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 Posted 04/18/2019  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something fishy here, I'm guessing.



to the CCF!
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 Posted 04/18/2019  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sasquatch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are more photos. You can tell this coin is very circulated and pitted.
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Yes that is quite clear. Hopefully one of the experts will be along to chime in, I'm not quite sure how this happens
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 Posted 04/18/2019  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sasquatch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've also been talking to someone at NGC . They said because of the elongated planchet it may be a double strike at the mint, but he has not seen one with this result.
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My first thought also was double struck, or a partial double strike. The reverse at 12:30 tends to support this theory.
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OP, presuming you own this coin, do you plan to submit to NGC? It appears genuine and is likely pretty valuable. Would you then sell it? Also, how did you acquire it?

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Hello again Jim,
I probably will send it in with my next batch to be graded.
I am not sure exactly where I bought it, but it was in my junk jar I filled in the 80s.
I went in the Navy for a while and forgot all about it. Unless its worth Millions I probably will keep it.
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OP, you might want to contact Rick Snow at Indiancent.com He is a specialist in Flying Eagle cents.
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Not to take from this moment of awesome, but with me being new and out of a chance to learn, what you are questioning is that the dates were struck seperate by hand back then so it's hard to have it double to that severity?
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Could it be a flying eagle struck over another type of copper coin to get that kind of error? Still would be amazing to find.
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 Posted 04/19/2019  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Penny,
This is an example of a double struck coin.

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Thank you
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Please dont think that I'm questioning anyones knowledge. I am truly curious to know if what I think I'm seeing is correct or not. Is there light doubling of the talons? Is what I'm thinking is doubling raised up as well?
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