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Australian1969 5c Error Or PMD

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 Posted 04/30/2019  08:28 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OoJasonoO to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all, just thought I would post this 1969 5c coin, curious to know what people think.

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 Posted 04/30/2019  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To the CCF

That is PMD
It is only an error if it happens during the striking of the coin
and there is no way that damage could happen at that time.
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 Posted 04/30/2019  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OoJasonoO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also this coin looks pretty cool, I'm thinking it's definately PMD, could it be a bottle cap that folded over the coin when it went into a mint roll.
My apologies for the poor quality photos.


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 Posted 04/30/2019  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely PMD
Probably a Dryer Coin
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Thank you jimmyd for your reply, I should proberbly add that the obverse side the indent goes from just before the 1 to the b in Elizabeth if its PMD how would the numbers and lettering still b in tact, again I apologise for the poor quality photo
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 Posted 04/30/2019  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Instead of asking how the coin got damaged, ask yourself
how it is possible for this to happen during the striking
of the coin at the mint. What you have there is impossible
to happen at that time., so it is PMD, no matter how it happened.
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If I had to guess I would say that 2 coins went into the press and the coin I have wasnt centered and obverse was struck on the blank side, that created the indent, and then it got pressed again and that's why the 69 and lettering is readable and that's why to reverse is so messed up, either that or some kind of platchet error, I admit I am still learning and even if its PMD its all part of understanding different kinds of errors
Cheers jimmyd
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 Posted 04/30/2019  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both of them show Post Strike Damage ( PSD). The damage happened after it left the mint (after the strike).
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 Posted 04/30/2019  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add airgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely PMD.
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 Posted 05/01/2019  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I mean it more than like a Post mint damage.
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Thank you all for your replies, 2nd coin I totally agree is PMD, just posted it because I thought it looked cool and I thought maybe it might have been created by a mint roll machine.
As for the 1st coin on the obverse side please enlighten me how a coin is indented PMD without destroying the font, maybe the reverse is PMD. If people think it's PMD could you please explain what you base your assumption on, so many posts I've read on this site where people say it's PMD and it turns out legit and rarely have I seen anyone asking questions about the post
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 Posted 05/02/2019  02:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
as it is very fuzzy picture (first coin) I only say that it cause by a Post mint damage more than likely something that cause large amount of selective pressure clamp/trial metal or something of a wedge, as five cents is a very cheap pieces of very available piece of metal.

As for the second coin is also very likely to be a PMD I reckon soldering iron was the cause but cant be certain due to the picture.

This is a genuine Mint error
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 Posted 05/03/2019  03:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OoJasonoO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Again I do apologise for the picture quality and also if I offended anyone(not my attention).
Let me give you my background.
I work in the metal industry, majority of my work is assembly but I also design and fabricate.
This is a trolley for lifting I designed and created
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Not trying to bignote, just showing that I'm not full of it.
I know it has nothing to do with coins but it shows I have a basic understanding about metal,
I've only been collecting for a year or so, I'm collecting 5 cent pieces first and I almost have all varieties(majority unc) and I have been trying to get and understand error coins.
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The second coin the metal is folded over the front, it still has lines on the side, I thought maybe it might have been created from a metal lathe, drill or some spinning device, but wouldn't the lines on the side be gone, that's why I thought it might be a bottle cap that got folded over from a mint roll machine.
Any ideas
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 Posted 05/03/2019  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serenitystan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HI OoJasonoO, It's just some nut case playing Silly Buggers with coins or just kids having fun..
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