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1799 Draped Bust Dollar On Greatcollections. How'd It Straight Grade?

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Respectfully disagree. Any coin is fair game. The constant free exchange of information defines the internet and helps keep sellers honest.
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The constant free exchange of information defines the internet and helps keep sellers honest.


Great Collections, Heritage, Legend, Stacks, David Lawrence etc need to be kept honest?

What actually happens is far more disinformation about many of the listings which in some cases the auction house does hold some of the blame if the pictures are over exposed/bad, in most cases it's people not knowing how to read the style of pictures from that house or just being unfamiliar with the series in general. And yes there are cases as well where people are trying to suppress the bid
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Any seller, large or small, invites and deserves opinions on his wares when he offers them openly to the public. A timed auction should hardly be a deterrent for comment - it should be an incentive.
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Anybody know what happened to the listing?
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Anybody know what happened to the listing?


Yeah, it sold.
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Any seller, large or small, invites and deserves opinions on his wares when he offers them openly to the public.


Opinions aren't all equal, especially when the coin has never been seen in hand, or they don't know the series, or the auction house picture style and I will just leave it at that.


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Anybody know what happened to the listing?


There's a couple things that could have happened and basically none are good unless that's a glitch, but I won't engage in speculation for it.
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Yeah, it sold.


I'll check their completed listings again. I could not find it anywhere.

EDIT: It is gone. Not in completed or active listings. Must have been withdrawn by GC or the consignor.
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basebal21 - You'll just leave it at that? So when any seller, large or small, throws something at us via auction, we should just squirm in silence?

Please.
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So when any seller, large or small, throws something at us via auction, we should just squirm in silence?


I've already addressed this numerous times in the thread. If you want to try and play games have it I will not engage any further when I have literally addressed unreliable sellers and raw coins and actual mistakes multiple times.

Trying to pretend a PCGS coin at national auction house is the same as a raw coin in a local boondocks auction with statements like "sellers large or small" is just playing games.

So I'll ask again does Great Collections need to be kept honest as you implied earlier?
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Must have been withdrawn by GC or the consignor.


Odd, after the auction it had a sold price of $2,222 or something like that. Maybe the buyer backed out.
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Every single coin, raw or slabbed, for public sale via auction or direct buy, deserves open and constructive criticism or praise until the clock expires.

Do you disagree with this?
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Do you disagree with this?


Yes 100%. Sales venues are not equal, grading companies are not equal, and opinions are not equal. Picture are not equal to in hand.

There are countless examples on various forums of people using their own "opinion" to trash something especially on high end coins. Super high end coins it doesn't really matter, the 4 figure range yes it can. There are also known experts and buyers that try and trash things to get them cheaper.

I've already said all that before as well as many other reasons. It's getting old having to repeat myself
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I contacted the auction house. The coin was conserved by PCGS but they failed to update the TrueView image. The Great Collections image more accurately represents this particular coin. It will be re-imaged by PCGS before shipping to the winning bidder.
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Ahh, that explains it. What a job PCGS did. Looks like it came straight out of the polishing rag.
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Looks like it came straight out of the polishing rag.


No it doesn't
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