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Great Collections Representative
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Sorry that I didn't see this earlier. We did speak to PCGS today - after a client (I believe a member on here) contacted us about the image discrepancy. PCGS said the coin was conserved by them a couple of years ago - and their TrueView image was never updated. The coin does look like our image. We're dropping the coin off at PCGS tomorrow morning and having them update their TrueView image before shipping to the winning bidder.
Best regards,
- Ian
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the info Ian. We were just as confused about the discrepancy.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Odd, after the auction it had a sold price of $2,222 or something like that. Maybe the buyer backed out. jimbucks: After reading Ian's post I se it did sell. Perhaps there is a delay in posting it to their Archives. Yep, it is there now ($2,500 includes the Buyer's Premium): https://www.greatcollections.com/Co...r-PCGS-XF-40Edited by BH1964
05/29/2019 07:37 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I guess it's a good thing we discussed this coin at length, else we may not have learned anything.
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Great Collections Representative
United States
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Sorry, I did take the listing down for a few hours yesterday while I was investigating the issue. It stops the item shipping in our system, which was my primary concern. After working it out and talking to the buyer by phone (who was already aware it didn't look like the PCGS image), I enabled the listing again.
If anyone ever notices something like this (or a mechanical error etc.), please e-mail me at ian@greatcollections.com - I'd really appreciate it.
Regards,
- Ian
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like it came straight out of the polishing rag. Doesn't look polished, more like dipped and stripped. But the coin IS overlit, so it may look better in hand. Edited by Conder101
05/29/2019 10:06 am
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Pillar of the Community
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It is because the standards applied to bust dollars are not the same ones applied to less-valuable coins.
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Pillar of the Community
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It is because the standards applied to bust dollars are not the same ones applied to less-valuable coins. I don't agree. The early silver coins tend to have a dull gunmetal appearance, which is more obvious on the larger coins. Unless in high AU/MS, in general, there really isn't much, if any, luster on these early coins. |
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Pillar of the Community
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 that was typical. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Yikes another victim of PCGS "conservation" then. Sad to see this is still being done.
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Valued Member
United States
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... victim ... I can appreciate the conservation or dipping in this case. The oxidation paths left a lot to be desired with this specimen. |
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I don't agree. The early silver coins tend to have a dull gunmetal appearance, which is more obvious on the larger coins. Unless in high AU/MS, in general, there really isn't much, if any, luster on these early coins. I'm talking about with regards to surface originality. If this coin was an 1880 S Morgan, it would not have straight-graded. The surfaces are not original on the GC coin, and they certainly aren't gunmetal grey. |
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If this coin was an 1880 S Morgan, it would not have straight-graded. And if it was a steak it would have been eaten after being cooked. If you want 100 percent known original than stick to the current year coins you can get still sealed, as for the rest some know the picture style of those types of expensive coins much more than others do. |
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I think that a "conserved" coin should be noted on the holder. Opinions?
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06/01/2019 9:53 pm
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I think that a "conserved" coin should be noted on the holder. Opinions? I would say no in my opinion. That would give the impression that everything was original and some do think that being dark is original. It get's kind of combative after that point, but I will say that there are very few coins of over a century old you can say no one ever did anything and there are cleaned coins today that will recover in time, the final product is all that matters and generally that does need to be seen in hand on higher value coins |
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