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Bedrock of the Community
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So you would actually be collecting labels - not the coins. You would be collecting the history of the coin along with the coin. The market has shown it time and time again and no it's not just label collectors. If someone doesn't like it by all means avoid it, but the ship has sailed on whether or not these things matter and the answer is yes they do Quote:
but like you say, when there are so many identical coins, mints have to create ways to market their production, and the logical way is to differentiate a mass of identical coins with labeled designations. The mints have no involvement in how coins are labeled. Their only involvement is that how they release them allows the differentiation to happen. The labels and the TPGs are doing nothing but labeling exactly how it was. Show releases are kind of the only time you can blame the mint for creating a rarity in the sense that the very first one sold (which they have done in the past) can be worth big time money. Those are probably a thing of the past though as a lot of people complained when dealers were paying homeless people to stand in line Edited by basebal21
07/13/2019 01:30 am
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basebal21: What if the Mints decided not to provide label designations, to just mint coins and sell them, not to differentiate them with "Early Release" etc., but only allow their conditions (PF-69, PF-70, etc.) to differentiate them. They could do it, but they won't. I think Mints have everything to do with making label designations available, and thus creating secondary markets for them. It benefits them and TPGs, AND coin dealers by making many collectors pursue labeled designations, which helps drive the market for these coins. Not sure what history you're talking about, that's associated with a RCM released set, as opposed to a US mint released set, other than they were released in different countries. Is that the history you're talking about? |
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More than 100 available again right now. 7:30am ET is the time to check for them.
EDIT: "The expected in-stock date is Tue Jul 23 2019."
This means that pretty much 100% of the mintage theoretically qualifies as ER or FS, assuming you leave the package sealed.
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07/13/2019 07:38 am
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Looks like sold out. Order 2 sets, but going to the wrong address. Delivery is FedExSmartPost. Contacted FedEx, USPS, and not much I can do. I have some one close to wrong address who will watch for delivery. No signature needed. I could call the post office in the city and see if they can forward the package to my current location. Or return to UDS Mint and have them forward to correct address. Delivery is scheduled for Friday July 12th. Any suggestions.
USPS was not able to deliver. Package was returned to the sender (US Mint). Bummer!
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...and gone again. They lasted almost 2.5 hours this morning. I guess because it's a Saturday. :)
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I think people who are anticipating this set to triple in value should make sure they're not getting their hopes up, because I've noticed most hot releases from the past few years fire up for a bit then drop in price significantly. I expect this one, however nice, will also follow this pattern. I personally don't care because I'm buying for my two young boys and not even as an investment but hopefully to just spark their interest as my grandfather did for me.
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Received my 4 sets yesterday (ordered two but because of the site issues it doubled my order). Really like the ASE so now the dilemma. Keep all four or return the duplicate order. The packaging is actually a little nicer than what I was expecting. Thought it was going to be a bigger version of what the proof ASE's come in. I hope they do this set again next year but with Mexico so it can be an ASE and Libertad. |
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wyzeguy, I am happy You too received your sets. That's quite the dilemma, lol. IYO, Are the sets all perfect? Mine out of the lot had 2 that there are specs  on the Canadian coins, The Enhanced Reverse Proofs, are Perfect..  look Amazingly Sweet, Especially in hand... Enjoy!! |
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Keep all four or return the duplicate order. Or maybe you can PM Ham1947 and help him out since his order was returned to the Mint  |
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Quote:I hope they do this set again next year but with Mexico so it can be an ASE and Libertad. That would definitely be cool, but the current political climate may be a bit to touchy to pull that off. |
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Or maybe you can PM Ham1947 and help him out since his order was returned to the Mint I can definitely do that. Good idea. Gonna mull it over the weekend and if I decide to return I'll pm Ham1947 and give him first dibs. |
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Quote:I hope they do this set again next year but with Mexico so it can be an ASE and Libertad. I hope it's not yearly. People get fatigued when they do it too many years in a row, but if they keep dropping the mintage significantly every year it could work. |
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Spotted first PCGS pop (July 13) for 70 grade: ASE US Set First Strike pop 34 ASE US Set Washington DC Minuteman FDI pop 100 ASE CA Set First Strike pop 177 ASE CA Set FDI pop 385 Maple US Set First Strike pop 32 Maple US Set Denver S. Blunt FDI pop 100 Maple US Set Denver Minuteman FDI pop 100 Maple US Set Washington Minuteman FDI 100 Maple CA Set First Strike pop 182 Maple CA Set FDI pop 257 |
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smile4art: NGC awards different points for each coin in a registry set based on a secret formula. Does PCGS do the same? What are the PCGS points for the 2019 w Pride ASE? Does PCGS have different points for USM vs RCM issued sets? Thank you NGC still does not have any coins submitted to their registry sets so the points are also not shown. |
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I hope it's not yearly. People get fatigued when they do it too many years in a row, but if they keep dropping the mintage significantly every year it could work.
I agree. They're already minting 2 versions every year now (W and S), no need to unnecessarily add another one... |
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