Penny 1844 Victoria (Great Britain Coin)

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Oscar III New Member Sweden 2 Posts	Posted 11/25/2019 3:37 pm Hi there, I inherited this beautiful Penny 1844 (34 mm) about 25 years ago. I'm foreign, and unfortunately I don't know much at all about Brittish copper coins. Could definitely need some help. I definitely see a lot of knowledge in this forum. (1) The coin has some wear and "normal" scratches, but it also has a kind of scratches/fissures in various places, on both sides. From what I understand it couldn't be die scratches, as they wouldn't create a fissure, rather the opposite, right? Would be really interesting to know what these fissures are. (2) Is this perhaps an established variety, and is there a variety list available somewhere? (3) According to British standards, would this coin classify as Fine or Very Fine? Any thoughts regarding value in general? Thanks! Report this Post to the Staff

Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 11/25/2019 4:11 pm I would guess mid-VF by US standards, but have no idea of value. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 190118 Posts	Posted 11/25/2019 5:04 pm to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
PaddyB Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 945 Posts	Posted 11/25/2019 6:53 pm I would think the cracks you can see are flan faults - imperfectly finished metal plate before cutting and minting. Best online resource for penny varieties is this: https://headsntails14.wordpress.com...y-varieties/ I have picked the copper Victorian penny varieties page, but there are many more in the site. There are not many varieties listed for 1844, but I think yours is the "slant up tails on 4s" version. I would give Fine on UK grading. Value will depend on how badly someone wants one! Rarity on the webpage is given as S for Seldom. I would think £20 to £30 would be reasonable. Report this Post to the Staff
Oscar III New Member Sweden 2 Posts	Posted 11/26/2019 05:50 am Thanks all for great contributions! I will definitely try to learn a little more about flan faults. Definitely seems like the "slant up tails" variety. Report this Post to the Staff
Hogarth Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 735 Posts	Posted 11/26/2019 09:00 am As you know Paddy I'm usually in agreement with you regarding grade, this time though I think Fine is a bit stingy. Look at the reverse, the shield and drapery detail are all there, the face and breastplate likewise are still present, and, there's lots of remaining hair detail on the obverse too. Report this Post to the Staff
PaddyB Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 945 Posts	Posted 11/26/2019 09:43 am You are probably right Hogarth. I think I downgraded it a bit because I find the lamination faults unattractive. Others, I know, like to collect this sort of error... Report this Post to the Staff
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